no. the aim-120a is already a better missile than what most nations get outside of like the r-77-1 if a plane is to be balanced it needs to be weak at something having the f16 just be giga isn’t the answer its probably why the EFT didn’t get them either
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it was for 1 patch the blueside (mainly the US) dominated ever since the grippen was added at least in sim
thats not true most nations get the aim120a/b that has the biggest range but also the worse performance at close range, pl12 have less range but are more agile ,aam4 have comparable range with aim120 but more agile , mica have a way faster acceleration and the range is only an issue at low alt while having the best seeker in game, r77-1 have less range only cuz of the launch platform but also perform extremely well at close range almost comparable with the mica, in truth only domination right now is the rafale that has one of the best radar one of the best missile and an insane FM, if u would give everyone at 14.0 the aim120c5 u would give 5-10km range at best
The problem is, Gaijin doesn’t balance sim as a separate entity from RB (raw performance-wise, not BR-wise), so considering its game rules, blu would obviously have a decisive advantage on avionics on 4th gen up until ‘4+’ when the J-10/Su-30/Rafale came to the scene.
So i wouldn’t say its totally unfair now. It was for a decent time, but nothing entirely relatable to RBs dictation the R-27ER or even the AIM-54 did for a while on BVR engagements.
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They might get it who know? update isn’t out yet
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it makes no sense for adding the aim120c5 to the f15e/i and not the eurofighter , i would ve understood if they gave the fa18 late aim120c5 and thats it but adding it to the f15e/i means that also the eft should get it
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hope this comes to eurofighter too. they already suck from useless radar and IRST, its reliant on speed and missiles. and the amraam does all the work as we don’t have ASRAAM or meteor
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I already told morvran to do a post abt it, its entirely fair to me that EFs should get them if the F-15E was already announced to be receiving 120Cs.
Besides, it’s a decent buff on the maneuverability department from the AIM-120A.
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yea its a major step up with a better motor.
seeing as its a late 90s mark it ought to be able to go to the FA2 harrier too. would actually make that thing less crap (it would still be ass at 12.3 and its 13.0)
if morvan ever does a post about it lmk , realistically speaking the aim120c5 would give the platforms up to maybe a maximum 10km of range over current aim120a/b but the big diff would be the agility it would be able to pull better in HOBS situation while still being worse than r77 mica derby aam4 pl12 in this regard it would be an improvement
It has a slightly better booster w the maneuverability of day 1 AIM-120A, i don’t find it that troublesome considering its on the easier end of notchable missiles
I mean it make no sense if somehow eft don’t have it but F-15E does both are 14.0 jet even for fox3 load out F-15E can carry up to 8 AMRAAM while eft only maximum at six
I’m pretty sure they will get it later
I dont think adding at 14.0 the aim120c5 to be any issue i did go into the dev server and at bvr its close w the aim120a/b and until i fired it in close range where it pulled better than aim120b and felt a lot closer to an aam4 i didnt saw a diff , if they are gonna add the aim120c5 for the f15e/i i am all for it to give it to the eurofighter aswell as the performance of these 2 is similar , ef2k is more agile f15e is slightly faster ef2k carries 6 fox3 f15e does 8 biggest diff is the radar the f15e radar is decent to good while ef2k is really bad
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The range is twice as large, the explosives are also larger and the controlled flight time has been increased to 120 seconds.
Does anyone have the performance envelope of aim120c in the Dev server?
Probably because the Typhoon can rinse the F-15E in most other areas
though the F-15E getting it at all is hilarious
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Instead of claiming the range is twice as fast go in to the dev server test on the f15e both aim120b and aim120c5 and u will see that the range is improved slightly(at best 10km) and biggest diff is the agility aim120c5 can be used in WVR much better than aim120a/b(still way worse than mica r77-1 r77 derby its on the AAM4 level almost)
f15e/i is slightly faster carries 8 fox3 and has a better radar
EFT is slower more agile and carries 6 fox 3 with a worse radar
In truth BVR performance was about the same but adding the aim120c5 would make it so f15 is clearly the better bvr platform while eft(f15 is slightly worse in furballs comapred to eft but also has better radar and 2 more fox3) doesnt perform as good in the furballs against the rafale or su30 cuz of the missiles diff , both f15 and eft are in similar positions either perform in the BVR arena or they become way worse giving it to one of them but not to the other makes no sense and i belive the aim120c5 will come for most top tier jets that could carry it in this dev server.
The only aspect that EFT can beat F-15E is dog fight anything else F-15E is better faster better radar more amraam too
Exactly.
I don’t know how people are able to defend this, because top tier is arguably incredibly balanced without one nation clearly dominating. Now we are back to the US being yet again the best nation at top tier, and most other BRs too.
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