This is comical at this point, you dont even know the definition of Delta V yet sit here and try to lecture me on it.
Delta V is mandatory to properly gauge the kinematic performance of a missile, omitting is willingly leaving out a literal core component of rocketry.
Welp, problem solved, kill the thread.
not surprises really but what surprises me is that EFT don’t get it despite being 14.0 jet as well.
Tbh I do get the F/A-18s getting them since their overall flight performance is pretty bad beyond funni turning, but given the F-15s also get them yeah, I dont see why the EFTs should not also get them.
In the end its not a major upgrade for all aircraft but it will be a noticeable +.
At least the F-16C should get them too
Those other planes shouldn’t get them unless gaijin does some actual decompression by increasing the max BR to 14.7.
And if they do come, gaijin needs to fix the PL-12, and Mica to be more realistic.
cool, but now the aim120 c-5 needs to come to UK too
Yes yes yes I know that Russia will have it’s LRM superiority challenged, its so sad that a missile that almost reaches the R-77-1 in total max range has appeared.
Gaijin recognizes the subparity of aim-120s by adding C-5
Actual rationalization players do instead: it will be broken! decompression!
And if they fix the PL-12/MICA, they can surely ungimp the AIM-120A right? Or you will skip it conveniently as most of modern US systems?
Once again, the R-77-1 is worse than the Aim-120B at BVR, and it only has a longer range against an AFK target.
Also, I’m more conserved about having everything get better, without decompression. We still have ARH-less 13.0s fighting top tier, and some of those same 13.0s are way better than others at the same BR.
I mean yes?
I’m not surprised that F-18s got the C-5s first, but the people asking for other nations to get them are asking for the game to be objectively worse because of increased BR compression.
Is it really fair to add them to other planes, while we still have stuff like the J-11A at 13.7, or the Mig-29G at 13.0?
This is exact same excuse RU main use all the times can you come up with something better?
there is an official raytheon purchase did for uk in 2003
and for tornado F.3 in 2004 the FSP programme includes the aim-120C-5 for it
(apud secret projects forum sources)
This has been disproven ad nauseam at this point with in game models and testing, the 120A and B in every situation will reach the same maximum range as the 77-1 about 12 to 15 seconds after the 77-1 and lags about 3 to 4 seconds behind the 77-1 at all stages of flight due to it’s reliance on it’s sustainer.
I loose braincells anytime someone leads in with “I only want decompression” no you want to keep your superiority in play, you never cared about slaughtering lower BR vehicles until you yourself started to get slaughtered.
You mean no. You didn’t asked for decompression when the R-77-1 and the MICA buffs came into place, sounds like another convenient argument when Russia’s dominance comes contested.
Yes, and i’d like them to add it to the last possible EF.
Meh, I had to play the HMS-less+anemic-sparrowed F-15A in a HMS+IR missile meta, players with R-27ERs won’t suffer as much.
I had no idea the mica was buffed until someone told me, and the Su-30SM still isn’t by far the best plane in the game at whatever it does.
That still doesn’t change the fact you can’t buff something drastically and not adjust its BR to conpensate. We need decompression and anyone saying otherwise is just wrong.
Boo boo Russia dominated for a bit clearly this means they should face Aim-120C carrying F-15Es. Good luck playing your Mig-29G, Su-27, F-15A, or any 13.0 ARH carrier now.
that bit was 10 months at the very least chat, btw.
Welcome to War Thunder’s uptier mechanic i guess? Everyone grew up with it in-game, no one died because of it.
I just despise your convenient timing on asking decompression ALWAYS whenever NATO gets something new to play with.
I know fully well that 13.0s like the F-4F ice or Su-27 should be 13.3, but making them face Aim-120Cs will just reinforce the fact that they can’t be moved up.
I’m also concerned about the balance of 13.7/14.0 since it’s genuinely the 2 most balanced consecutive BRs in the whole game (excluding the J-11A). Why should gaijin ruin that and not rebalance stuff accordingly?
no. the aim-120a is already a better missile than what most nations get outside of like the r-77-1 if a plane is to be balanced it needs to be weak at something having the f16 just be giga isn’t the answer its probably why the EFT didn’t get them either