Russia now has DIRCM bias. https://youtu.be/IEsdYd45B08
how much you all wanna bet they US/Other nations Ah64Ds wont get it even though its suppose to have the same feature when you take the AMSE pods. they are DIRCM ECM pods.
Just like how they wont give tthe US AGR-20C (heat) and D (proxi) or E (IR guided Roxi)s
or AGM114Ls even though US helos are terrible and unplayable.
Or lower the AGR-20A/B cost down to normal rocket levels sens they are terrible.
AH1W needs 9Ms and 1Z needs 9x. 9Ms are a 1983 missile and the Ws are a 1987 helicopter…
Ah6M needs to be 9.7 cuz it doesnt have CMs, AAMs, or even enough engine power to fly with rockets.
Hinds need to be 10.3 not 9.7 cuz they have literally everything you could ever want and are OP for their BR. you can take AAMs ATGMS, Rockets, and gun all at the same time with thermals and CMs. most 10.7 dont even get half that. sure their atgms are meh but it carries WAY more of them + everything else, and to say the helo isnt ridiculously OP and criminally under BRed for what it offers is insane.
The issue is that the IR signatures already make locking helis hard, and impossible with DIRCM / IRCM. So that eliminates using them.
Helis dont have their IRL Radar signature (caused by the rotor blades making a PD contact) Which means that SARH/ARH can be rarely used and only used if the target is actually moving.
So due to these game induced limitations. AGMs are the next best thing for some form of standoff engagement without resorting to using guns.
Thankfully some will still be usable like Brimstones, but thats the minority. IR AGMs made a good stand in
that was the only way for US, Jap, taiwan, france and others, to kill it somewhat safe(still in danger of Vikhr, gun and 9M39). now they can only try to use gun(die in most of cases due to very accurate 2A42 and vikhr)
that’s a much more modern version of what’s in game and I don’t think it was ever finalised, only the 64E has DIRCM/CIRCM.
As garbage as they are; Hellfires (with thermal optics) at 9.7 is a satanic request.
No they aren’t. They have no optics and R-60Ms really don’t have good seeker or motor range.
Helis like the AH-64 don’t have access to their passive radar jammers either. Seeing a premium Peten die to an R-3R from a MiG-21 ranks as one of the most tragic things I’ve seen.
I guess there’s still a reason to drag a SACLOS SAM into top tier. Kh-38s will still dominate tho, I don’t see the new DIRCM or any of the new SAMs changing that.
The (A)MASE blisters still use the AAQ-24(V), so it’s really the “same” modular suite with a revised configuration.
Apache Modular Aircraft Survivability, AMASE;
Each helicopter has two pods mounted on the stub wings. Each pod holds two chaff/flare magazines and three UV-based missile warning sensors providing 360 deg spherical coverage against incoming threats. Each AMASE pod can host a DIRCM unit, RWR, MWS, and HFI.
It’s still far superior to the ATAS as implemented in game, or the prospective Proximity fused / SALH+IR homing APKWS II variants.
Maybe play helicopters? What you said is disingenuous. You would know that when you’re in a ka52 or mi28, the only ranged threat to you other than Saclos missles is IIR Agms.
For planes, Its a common tactic to fire a maverick at a ka52 because IR missles don’t work and doing a gun run is risky. Now that doesn’t work. So now only gun runs can only work. You could fire a ARH missle but it’s hit or a miss.
You would also know that the biggest counter to the ka52s/mi28 were from spikes/pars because they’re undetectable (until the last second), and extremely hard to dodge. So not only you negate this counter, you also completely negate the helicopters that carry these agms.
Fortunately I don’t think this applies to the ka52 but only the Mi28.
But it does changes everything tho, Ka52 are insanely strong in term of self-defense against jets and I rely heavily on AGM65’s to kill them for me because IR missiles are useless and going in for gun kill is suicide. Yes I could fly high and attack from top down but then I would be pantsir food. Ka52 is stupidly strong in both offense and defense.
You dont see AH64 at all in both squadron battle or GRB because they are the worst heli in the game due to lack of good munition and defense.
Kinda funny to think the new spaa being added is going to be a massive buff to helis at top tier since you are less likely to run into saclos launchers that can actually kill you. Pantsir wins again I guess.
