Proof for that? Because revolution 2 is just the unofficial name from everything I’ve seen
Out of the Gesamtwekt Leopard 2 Frank Lobitz
Sooo a completely different tank… Unrelated to revolution or atd
yes. the PL is a different developed tank together with polish companys
So why mention it when talking about the ATD/revolution 2.
to your statement about domestic options i named a few domestic options for germany that would be great for the leo 2k line since its so emtpy, well depends on how you consider the leo 2 revolution2, since its an export tank that never fully got bought i guess.
You were the one saying there are the same tank as the PL which was factualy wrong and i corrected you
ah wait you mean the atd and the revolution 2 are the same tank?
well thats wrong as well
i never imagined you could think of them as the same tank lol
Girl what. I said the revolution 2 and atd are the same tanks nothing to do with 2PL check my original reply
Show the difference.
you said the tank with the L/44 and a tank with the L/55 and strikeshield APS are the same tank.
Excuse me when i thought u didnt mean the revo 2 and the pl
revolution 2 full kit
Atd
Your thinking of the original revolution and not what people call the revolution 2 what is just the unofficial name of atd
@Smin1080p_WT Then, how about this? The Netherlands is friendly with Germany and has several military alliances, so could it be proposed to the developer that the sub-research countries share these with multiple countries?
Netherlands is already part of the BeNeLux tree in the French Research tree. As such, its vehicles wont be going to Germany too.
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I was just talking about an example. Subordinating a subordinate state to one country seems to disregard national relations too much.
careful with your words there, netherlands is not a subordinate state of germany, we aint in china
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The Dutch Apache was the logical conclusion to Germany’s lack of a top-tier worthy heli, but it went to France instead… And Gaijin will do insane mental gymnastics to deny a Polish one too, even though China, of all nations, got two similar helicopters, the Z-10E and the AH-64E through Taiwan. Come on now.
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From Sahilku010101: #birdaerosystems #missileprotection #aviationdefense #featherweightprotection #aerospaceinnovation #militaryhelicopters #defenseexhibition2026 | BIRD Aerosystems Maybe we can consider this as a secondary source.
Buddy me and sahilku are literaly both together mods in german armor discord
And no, not realy another souce its both from the same convention.
It doesnt even mention the H145M specialy, but only shown in the background