Right. IDK what cone of vision the seeker head has or how much area it can scan at 5km range, so excuse my ignorance on that matter.
But wouldn’t it be quite easily possible to, say, point the laser near some smoke someone popped, and just let the radar detect them and get a kill?
I know you will say Kh-38MT can try and splash someone, but again the difference here is you’d need to guess well in order to splash, whilst MMW IFF will just ignore the smoke and directly hit.
Also Brimstone in this case would still be at least 40km.
So sure, me in my Typhoon with 4-6 Brimmies will just be slowly prowling around 30km from targets, picking them off one by one with absolutely nothing they can do.
If the seeker head has a large cone of visions at 5km, then you can just spam 2 at each major map point, like roads or whatever bottlenecks and see yourself get 3 kills per flight.
The important thing here is, Kh-38MT for all its power, is defeated by a simple smoke grenade or cover.
The whole Brimstone situation is beyond stupid. We should have a menu for swapping the seeker in-game similar to how the seeker mode can be swapped on some SPAA’s like the Strela. And if Gaijin doesn’t want full LOAL capability in ground battles then they could simply disable certain modes. But no, instead we basically get hellfires on aircraft. (Meanwhile Russia gets a missile that didn’t exist and is still wildly OP)
But that is the exact same though. I’ve been killed dozens of times through smoke by a KH-38MT even when moving and changing direction to throw off the IOG and the continued denial of ANY FnF weapon for the Typhoon despite the fact that KH-38MT never existed and would still more than likely outperform even the Brimstone 2 dramatically because you still wouldnt be able to volley fire like they can and you would largely be limited to 1 target at a time still unless engage someone stationary is extremely annoying.
As is KH-38MT right now. You can fire at a fixed point and the seeker will find a target close to the IOG point and lock on. its even been documented the missile reacquiring the target if they accidentally leave smoke coverage.
So like Su-30 with KH-38MT right now?
Then give us SAL+GPS Spear-3s if this is such a major issue then. Because its stupid we are artificially limited with 0 FnF AND the weakest possible variant of the Brimstone.
Im sorry, but they HAVE to add MMW or add a placeholder seeker instead of MMW because denying 3 nations FnF AGMs that actually existed for their top tier aircraft but giving the soviets a KH-38MT that never existed beyond a mock-up is just deeply unfair and shows clear bias
Yup. And the fact we are artificially limited to Brimstone 1s instead of 2s as well is just a further slap in the face. I think at this point its pretty clear they are artificially nerfing the Typhoon loads out of spite.
Lucking you splash someone by guessing where they’ll be by the time your missile travels 30km is nothing like your missile locking through smoke after travelling 25km.
None of your following example acknowledge the difference between IR seekers happening to lock a target near enough to your point VS a missile that actively seeks a radar lock in a wide cone 5km from the targeted point.
Even your laser + radar idea would basically mean you don’t have to guess anything, since you can update the location of your target.
If you can’t see how much more powerful that is, there’s really nothing to discuss.
A bias towards making the game playable.
If they’d just have dumped 18 brimstone MMW F&F 60km missiles, the game would be completely ruined.
Then remove KH-38MT then. Its stupidly unfair they can fire off 6x Missiles from triple the range of any non-soviet SPAA and get 6 kills relaibly
Then give the Typhoon the BRIMSTONE 2s IT ACTUALLY USED.
If we are going to be artificially limited to SAL only then give us a decent SAL only weapon. What we have is a missile with 10-15km range at the moment meanwhile the soviets are firing off missile from 40km reliably and yet that is considered balanced.
IDK if Kh-29TE/D or whatever is good enough to keep up with AGM-65D/F or whichever.
I think what’s done is done.
It is unfortuante that nations are limited by their kit. I think this obsession over realism leads to detrimental scenarios. Even their weird SAL limited thing is a product of that.
I don’t know why Gaijin are being slow to act on the platter of bug reports about Brimstone underperforming in a lot of ways.
I think once those things are fixed, we would understand why they were so hesitant in the first place.
Then add Brimstone 2s or 3s then. There is no possible argument for 6x KH-38MTs that never existed to be acceptable and yet the Typhoon denied Brimstone 2s that it did actually use (it never used Brimstone 1s)
Thats the Typhoon. STR, ITR, Top speed, Acceleration, loadout, radar, DASS, CMs, there isnt a single aspect of the Typhoon that isnt underperforming significantly at the moment.
But for the extra range, we need Brimstone 2s, not the 1s we have at the moment.
I was comparing 6x IR+IOG+Huge Warhead with 6x MMW+Tiny warhead
Mode 2 Brimstone 2s would have no greater LOAL ability than KH-38MTs alreayd have now.
The MMW will barely have greater ability to ignore smoke than KH-38MT already have with IOG and its warhead.
So 6x MMW (Mode 2) Brimstone 2s vs 6x KH-38MTs would be equal. In fact, id actually give the advantage to the KH-38MT still because Brimstone 2 would still be forced to engage 1 target at a time and the KH-38Mt can still kill 6 targets within seconds at 30km with absolutely impunity.
I know you are a soviet cope main that thinks KH-38MT is the weakest AGM in the game and needs buffs. But doesnt mean everyone else has to be artificially nerfed through the floor to ensure that KH-38MT remains undefeated.
I cant wait for the soviet mains to be shot down by CAMM-ERs soon. Will be hilarous watching them beg for better AGMs
Let’s just ignore the fact that if launched at 30km, it will travel more than half of the time in point lock mode, meaning you can simply move away on purpose or by accident if in an MBT.
Having LOAL missiles would mean you don’t even have to find your targets, as even that is automated.
Being this delusional is an achievement, even for an UK main with serious case of victim complex paired with perma seething.
I doubt they’ll outrange AGMs with supposedly 40km of efficient range lmao.
Those players actually play the game and don’t throw a hissy fit every time their vehicles aren’t the best at literally everything.
Amount of UK malders on the forum is extraordinarily high considering how (un)popular UK is, I guess coping is more fun than playing the game for a change.