Players are barely taught how to play, never mind understand the game’s mechanics.
Nah man hellfires are ok imho. They are just little too “unique” to play cuz of IOG so people actually dont know how to use it and i dont blame them. IOG enables u to shoot behind cover which no other heli missiles has that ability (i think)
Just turn off ur “enable laser after using weapon” setting. Before the hit timer runs out lase target. Just few settings and some testing and u are good to go :).
On right map and right spot u can be nearly unkillable just cuz of planes
Feel free to invite me. I can show u how to do it ;)
is that a static or moving target
because ive tested ~500m alt manually lofted on a moving target and it only hit around 3.5km
any laser guided heli missile can be shot from behind cover carefully, with beam riding missiles you can shoot them into the air and then guide them onto target after peaking but it works best with hellfires due to the IOG and the lofted flight profile (it should go significantly higher still)
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USA main asks for more handholding
Also, somehow they started talking about kh38
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nah, hellfires suck ass. Their flight times are way longer than they should be, they dont even fly the right profile for top attack and end up smashing into the sides of tanks, and they fly slower than they should because of the weird flight profile.
yeah you can ripple fire them and use IOG + laser designation for the terminal phase, but 25 second flight times make it so you need to either hide then pop up for the terminal phase, or you have to hide to avoid either a SAM firing at you or CAS/CAP. And funny enough, the timer isnt even correct for estimating time of impact, so you need to be visible for longer to account for that. Not sure what they’re using for their time of flight estimation, but i would assume that since there’s a discrepancy between the estimated & actual time of flight its the flight profile that the hellfires SHOULD be using for a top attack
and yeah, all helicopters have to be aware of that, but with hellfires you have to pay attention to 5 things at once, and make sure that the optics remain on target. For basically the entire flight, since its hard to reacquire a target if you lose lock and they’re maneuvering. And if you get fired on, 95% chance you’re going to lose lock.
regarding all the bugs with the agm-114’s, I refer you to this thread: AGM-114 Hellfire - Badly underperforming? - #153 by less_than_ideal
A bug was submitted as part of the thread above regarding the flight profile which was marked as duplicate, however the original has been open for 2 years and is unacknowledge by gaijin, even though they marked another bug as duplicated but won’t touch the first one… I wonder why?
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Saying “More” and “US” in the same sentence is crazy, AGM114Ls are needed to replace the old and slow Hellfires and to deal with Pantsir and new SPAAs coming this update.
If they dont add it then spawning a Heli equiped with Hellfires going to be a free kill to AAs and pretty useless.
Because its gamebreaking and shouldn’t be in the game? Same things they said about the 114Ls, but when it comes to Russia everything is possible.
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Yeah yeah, we get it, you need to have everything best
Literally the US isn’t the BEST at anything right now, it was the best nation with AIM120s but not anymore, but yeah go ahead and be more delusional.
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We both know how it all gonna go.
You don’t have any arguments so you start insulting. You gonna start flagging posts. And you gonna get angry again, because other people do not share your view, that usa should be buffed above everyone else.
I’ll just skip all those steps.
So you can’t prove me wrong, right got it!
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Prove you what?
Prove that you don’t care about the game and just want your nation to have better unbalanced stuff that no other nation has?
That was proved multiple times on this forum with you.
You are not a partner for discussion, as your basic foundations are not objective
Except that 114Ls would benefit nearly every nation in-game, and not just the US tree?
The same way AIM-9s, AIM-7s, AIM-120s, etc benefited other trees far more than just the US?
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When and where did i say this? Is this another Alvis?
Infact i discussed and stated my honest opinions, while you on the other hand gaslighting me and saying stuff that i did not say at all.
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There you go.
We are now here:
And what credible argument do you have about this?
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Am i wrong though? Saying the US is the best nation is indeed delusional.
Here.
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AGM-114L is the weakest possible FnF AGM option for multiple nations, not just the US. Gaijin decision that MMW will not be modeled and that a reasonable placeholder for it is also unacceptable has left at least 2 nations helis (if not probably more like 5 or 6 nations) in a rather underperforming state. The Hellfire is a decent AGM for 10.7/11.0, but rather lack luster at 12.0 compared to stuff like the Vikhrs or FnFs like the Spike.
Even looking beyond helis. The Brimstone nations are rather majorily hamstrug by the lack of MMW modeling. Even the soviets have MMW weapon options iirc.
They need to model MMW in one form or another, they cannot maintain their “burying their head in the sand” approach they have currently adopted.
This is a simple fact.
Given the current state of top tier SPAA vs CAS. Its not all that surprising other nations want stuff that is better. Soviets have been dominating with both fixed wign CAS, Rotary CAS and SPAA for a while now and the only logical route forward for mutliple nations, US especially to get anything better is MMW
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Every nation that isn’t USSR would get 114Ls, depending on how they decide to apply their own rules.
But then USSR wouldn’t be the only nation with a PF helicopter ATGM… Oh wait…
Also with the new AAs they plan to add next update is more than a good decision for them to add a better AGM to various nations.