I just wanted to see the result……
But there aren’t 2 separate versions of this missile to add the missile uses gps+ins and has an optical seeker which is essentially the seeker from an agm65g for terminal guidance using man in the loop for pre impact designation all built in to one missile.
Targeting is preplanned or designated via target of opportunity modes using a tgp or waypoints.
Man in the loop also requires a separate datalink pod to function which is the an/aww13
Without an optical lock the missile is essentially a longer range jdam.
If you want an understanding of how this should work read the dcs hornet manual or go play dcs.
Still not totally realistic but more realistic than warthunder can ever hope to be but I would say offers the best insight in to how the slam and slam-er should work while being already modelled as a functional weapon using open source documents with sme inputs for the public consumer.
yea i know it doesnt have 2 versions, it’s just that the AGM84H in warthunder is effectively missing the GNSS lock and launch entirely so I am asking to get a 2nd version of this missile added, making it purely GNSS version
nobody want the AGM84H if gaijin is going to add it so half assed and half its feature missing, at this point it’s even worse than the mavericks, which are already shitty
I agree, I’d say it’s missing 2/3rds of it’s actual targeting ability and is probably gimped from the get go.
The optical seeker being a ccd maverick seeker has a limited lock range regardless and ultimately the slam and slam-er is designed for destroying bunkers and fortifications it’s a bit overkill for vehicles. But for a kh38 equivalent it would be a good stand in if modeled correctly, i’m not 100% certain if the seeker will gain a lock from a tgp designation when it gets in range as that terminal targeting guidance would be done via mitl commands if launched from a distance i would say there’s a fair chance it could acquire a contrast lock automatically if the target doesn’t move but i also wouldn’t count on it.
from what I could find, the ship launched AGM84 version (harpoon) sea skim at around ~50 meters or lower so I’d say it’s safe to assume that AGM84H cruise above ground at the same height but dont quote me on it tho cuz i cant find any source stating exact height about AGM84H, im just assuming
yea well Kh38MT seeker is copy/paste from mavericks’ seeker and suffer from limited lock range, but GNSS on Kh38MT actually works.
If it loses lock (enemy tank pop smoke for example) it would still home in and land very near the target, and from my experience, i would get still die or atleast get tracked
Cruise heights should be variable dependant on the mission flight profile chosen by the launch aircraft or mission parameters butbetween 500, 15,000 and 35000ft - terrain following is more of a suggestion than a rule
I wish it had gnss + followed terrain at much lower altitude than it does rn (700m is absurd). 50-100m so there is a chance to get aa with pants down. Also there should be a way to detect and avoid trees because currently maps are brimming with 40-50m high sequoias. Would be nice to have double rack in middle of f15e so I could fit 16 gbu39, 2 agm84 and 6 agm65. But perhaps Im asking for too much.
ALL TV/IR ordinance will ALWAYS prefer surface lock instead of IOG. It works exactly same for all of them whether SLAM, hammer or kh38. IR/TV missile going into IOG is such an insane rarity that only happens where ground is not lockable (some building corners)
