There’s a bug report made on it’s flight path which hasn’t been fixed to this day. There is also the Romeo which would be a considerable upgrade over the existing Bravos/Kilos. It has the ability to have a direct flight path, more accurate IOG and a multipurpose warhead (which includes a proxy).
All of which won’t affect the BRs of the Longbows as they are considerably over BRd for it’s lackluster performance.
The information is restricted and unusable for publicly available computer software.
AGM-114Ls were never promised, and Apache would have to be 13.3, not 13.0.
13.0 would allow it to see players that don’t want to face undefeatable missiles.
@HondaCivici
Romeo has the same range as all AGM-114s, all of them have the same range, it’s just the ones fired from 150kph drones are listed as having a higher range because it’s a moving vehicle.
The AGM-114s in-game would go 11km if they didn’t self destruct at 8km, just on the 45 second timer.
Range will provide little benefit to the hellfires because the farther they go, the more inaccurate it gets. This is because of it’s flight performance.
Romeo would be a nice upgrade but still, the AH-64D is known for the Longbow radar and Hellfires. The 13.3 BR wouldn’t be that of a change.
And I feel like the Apache needs it, I think it’s the only heli in the game that has to sacrifice air-ao-air missiles (which underperform too) to have MAW.
there is a bug report that was accepted 2 years ago about fixing the flight profile, still not fixed
it is not a lack of information as there are systems in game with much less public information, it is the devs deciding not to fix them
how was this flagged as advertisement, wtf is wrong with that system
Incorrect. Per the FY2026 budget documents, Spike is being fielded on both AH-64Ds and Es.
114Ls are not undefeatable, idiot.
Great news then
Army procurement FY26 budget right?
Typical that the troll arrives to peddle disinformation.
The datamines know more than you.
No missile is undefeatable
Datamines say there’s no chaff-smoke grenades in War Thunder, I trust the datamines over peoples’ dreams.
Neither is there an actual MMW Seeker implemented in game, and the only Active radar guided Seeker (AS.34) is on an A2S missile.
I’d expect that were MMW to be added there would be an allotment made for proper countermeasures to be added, such as the M81, or for it to be arbitrarily included in the generic smoke formulation available to all nations for balance.
And as such it wouldn’t be any more dangerous than existing Electro-Optical or IIR ATGMs.
You can still just defeat it by doing around a building
AGM-179A JAGM in the leek for the AH-64E
Inb4 its just another SALH hellfire with the same range, while China and Russia get their F&F missiles.
hopefully they will use it as an excuse to finally fix hellfires but I doubt it
probably gonna just be a spike clone
Don’t forget that China will also get the Gaurdian since Taiwan operates them.
True but range doesn’t really matter in GRB, however it does in Heli EC
Range, and moreso, thrust, greatly helps in both modes, but the issue would be that the JAGM as is, is just a hellfire with a heavier sensor package when compared to the current 114R, so, in the case of WT, if they don’t give it MW guidance, there is a high chance its just going to be a slower B/K with less range and less total energy, meaning its going to preform even worse than existing hellfires in most situations.
If it does get MW then it has a reason to exist as while, in the case of how gaijin designs things, it will just be a slower hellfire with MW guidance. The ironic bit would be that the 114L, once again due to how gaijin designs things, would be the better option as it would sport a overall lower weight and same total thrust.
In the end, I have 0 faith that gaijin will actually give the JAGM MW guidance, thus, I foresee another SALH brimstone moment, but in this case, the brimstone at least has a better motor, the JAGM does not.
