no but its pretty old, because its linked here Army Indirect Fire Protection System and New Guided Missile Program | Page 6 | Secret Projects Forum
posted almost 11 years ago
That literally took 2 minutes.
Apparently the Hellfire is a Kinetic impact only C-UAS system.
The entire point of the report was to respond to the fact that the JAGM has a proximity fuse, which was established in the prior report, it’s obvious they didn’t look at the prior report
I just hate that they close things in short order instead of asking clarifying questions, or leaving the topic open for 24~48 hours to permit a response or clarification to be given.
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@Gunjob Any idea? Also as an aside it appears that references [6] & [7] have been lost in their entirety, must have run over the character limit, or they just weren’t addressed by the manger, the files used are still present though.
As to a response to Bug Reporting Manager #1
Pictures from unknown sources are not reliable sources.
Has now been solved, can be attributed to;
“Acquisition Reform In a Rear View Mirror”, Project Manager, Joint Attack Munition Systems
Also, AGM-114L-7 != JAGM
And yet the AGM-114L-7/ -8A has a proximity fuse, without the use of the Height Of Burst sensor(as on the AGM-114R-2), and uses a similar MMW seeker to the JAGM both are in the EHF band. and both are used in the C-UAS role(see sources [1] & [6]).
Thus it is likely that whatever mechanization that is used by the AGM-114L-7 to produced the Proximity effect is similar, Such an implementation is discussed in Source #7, which was the reason for its inclusion.
2: navyrecognition
3rd party websites are not reliable sources.
The source says nothing about proximity fuse.
The point is to build a case that the use of the AGM-114L is used by both Helicopters and the LCS Frigates, and that they share hardware with only a difference in software, so it is unlike the AGM-114R & -114R-2 for example.
Had I been permitted to continue to refine the report, The following would have been attached which additionally contribute similar details anyway.
And a Excerpt Freeze-frame from source 4, clearly showing the yellow aerodynamic cover, and being the -114L-7 / -8A variant.
Which additionally Source 4 reinforces the use in a C-UAS role.
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The source says nothing about JAGM.
It shouldn’t need to as it is addressing The Dev’s response as provided in the prior report as to its rejection, Which in itself had nothing to do with the JAGM.
The point made for [5] was that, the specific Warhead generates a significant quantity of radial fragments. And thus in the specific scenario would in fact alongside a proximity fuse turn a near miss into a kill, thus not being “useless” as alleged, if modeled properly, especially considering it is no more maneuverable than the existing Hellfire.
[6] supports in writing that JAGM’s Target set includes; Rotary, Slow Fixed-wing and UAS.
[7] was to support that Sufficient evidence has already been presented that the JAGM has some method of implementing a Height of Burst Sensor, does not require an independent annular sector sensor for Proximity fuse functionality all it should need is a software refinement, this is not in doubt.
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if I recall gaijin refused AGM-114L because MMW weaponry. But then proceeds to add AGM-179 which is effectively 114L but better in every way (so what’s holding gaijin back?)
Found it
https://www.ndiagulfcoast.com/events/archive/42ndSymposium/RearViewWarnick.pdf#page=5
But with the report rejected…
They simply do not want to give JAGM the proxy fuse. So they will use every possible excuse… and if you find explicit proof, they may call it a marketing lie…
If it was a russian missile photo of mockup missile form some exhibition would be enough.
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I’m not real sure about that, it’s not the first of my reports to be shut down in short order, simply because it doesn’t state things plainly.
since when do they insta lock a report for not enough info
arent they supposed to leave comments open so you can add more sources if you find them?
Depends on the tech mod mood.
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It’s probably Mr ‘Not a Bug’ currently on shift.
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feels like thats most of them
because they closed it you can probably copy and paste it again, and add new source found, or source identified
just make sure you do it 8-12 hours offset from the closed report
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From datamine:
- AGM-179 (IR), AGM-179 (SAL):
- shrapnel preset changed to the Hellfire one:
- amount increased,
- angles widened,
- range increased,
- penetration increased,
- damage increased,
- explosive damage: offset and radius increased
- shrapnel preset changed to the Hellfire one:
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Seems really quite strange considering the report went from “Not a bug”, to “Fixed”. Bypassing the Acceptance phase.
Maybe it was linked to an Internal report that, didn’t exist at the time. It’s probably the first time I’ve seen this happen.
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Cuz
Maybe they changed their views again, or maybe something else.
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was this implemented today? Yesterday, I was using the JAGM yesterday and it appeared to be over pressuring more on lightly armored vehicles and doing more damage on heavy targets. Not sure if it was placebo though
Yes
placebo
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Hah? they did it already?
if that the case there will be the few things that Gaijin really able surprise me.