Add a A-10 with no ATGM's at 9.3 or 9.7

A-10-A was fun to use when it first came out.
Now it’s sad, CAS runs without ATGM is a death sentence.
A-10-A is only playable with the AGM-65B’s.
I would trade the AGM-65B’s for a lower BR and have more fun just running with the A-10’s Gun.
(Add a A-10 with no ATGM’s at 9.3 or 9.7)

I was thinking they need to something akin to what they have been doing with the Torandos (a variant with no GBUs that focusing on unguided bomb runs). Add an A-10 with a loadout appropriate for 9.0 ish. Where its main A2G weapon is gun, rockets and bombs. Still would struggle a bit, but could be fun.

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with aim9-L’s its not going down

So what if another A-10 was added. 2-4 Aim-9Gs and no Guided A2G weapons at 9.7?

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Agree, kinda sad the fun and interesting thing about A-10 is their gun run but you never see one because they will likely get shoot down before reaching the battlefield. An A-10 / Su-25 with balanced loadout for 9.0 can be fun yes

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Yeah. Most people think about the gun run videos but they forget that the a10 can do that because there is like zero anti-air in those situations.

I’m not sure what timeline you are referring to here.
A-10 vs AA 2003
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx1tDDU7Jc_AnV7a09J4v8ZK3AJ9GC1alr?si=Pxp5p6gOCkMFA-us

(Full clip) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ansMWbmU4Y4&ab_channel=Matsimus

A-10 was a designated CAS, its role was to attack USSR armored tank groups. Most flights during the Cold War were trained to be at low altitudes, The A-10 was designed to be able to come into the location of the armor, if AA was not immediately taken they would loyter on target.

The more time moved on the better the weapon systems the A-10 was given.
It’s all about what era we are referring to.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/resrep13754.11?seq=6
Page - 62.
“When conducting lower-altitude passes (5,000–10,000
ft) for target identification, he limits himself to one pass only and uses a
combination of jinks and flares when climbing back up to altitude. Cub
32 trails a mile behind slightly above and offset from Cub 31. As a wing-
man, Cub 32’s purpose is to provide mutual support by covering the lead
and calling out all SAM launches.22 This task is difficult if MANPADS launch
because the missiles are extremely fast and their pencil-thin smoke trail
is hard to see. Wingmen barely have time to call for flares before the mis-
sile zips through the flight.”

I am saying that an a10 will not do a gun run if aa is present. When i say aa, i am not refering to a couple 23mm’s manually aimed.

If there is something like a shilka or a sam is up, i highly doubt the pilot is going to do a gun run.

I’d agree from a HQ or Battle doctrine but I would have to keep the door open to the individual pilot tho, Lots of stories of Pilots who risked themself to protect troops on the ground.

A-10 pilots have a history of heroic actions, often risking their lives to provide crucial air support for ground troops. Here are a few notable stories that highlight the bravery and determination of A-10 pilots during intense combat situations:

1. Captain Kim Campbell – Iraq, 2003

One of the most famous stories involves Captain Kim “Killer Chick” Campbell, an A-10 pilot during the Iraq War. In 2003, while providing close air support to ground forces in Baghdad, her A-10 was heavily damaged by enemy fire. The plane lost its hydraulic systems, leaving her with no way to control it except through manual backup systems. Despite the damage, she managed to safely fly the A-10 for an hour back to her base, saving the aircraft and her own life. Captain Campbell’s quick thinking and bravery earned her the Distinguished Flying Cross for heroism.

2. Major David “Zeke” Skalicky – Afghanistan, 2011

In Afghanistan, Major David Skalicky and his wingman were called to support U.S. Special Forces trapped in an ambush. Despite poor visibility and heavy anti-aircraft fire, Major Skalicky and his team flew multiple low-altitude passes to attack enemy positions. They ignored the risks of being hit by enemy fire, and their persistence helped break the ambush, saving the lives of the soldiers on the ground. For this action, Skalicky was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross.

3. Major General Paul T. Johnson – Gulf War, 1991

During Operation Desert Storm in 1991, then-Captain Paul T. Johnson flew an A-10 on a daring mission to save a downed U.S. pilot deep behind enemy lines. He flew low and slow, under heavy anti-aircraft fire, to provide cover and suppress enemy forces as helicopters came in to rescue the pilot. His bravery and precision flying earned him the Air Force Cross, the second-highest military decoration in the U.S. Air Force.

4. Captain KC “T-Bone” Waldron – Afghanistan, 2017

Captain KC Waldron, another A-10 pilot, was involved in a rescue mission in Afghanistan when U.S. forces came under heavy fire from Taliban forces. Despite being advised that the area was too dangerous due to the concentration of enemy anti-aircraft weapons, Captain Waldron made repeated passes to provide fire support for the pinned-down troops. His actions were credited with saving many lives, and he was later recognized for his heroism and courage under fire.

These stories highlight the lengths to which A-10 pilots have gone to support ground forces, often taking extreme risks to protect their fellow service members. While not all instances of pilots defying orders to enter dangerous areas are public, these examples show the deep commitment of A-10 pilots to their mission of close air support, often putting the safety of soldiers on the ground above their own.

Never saw a Hog with anything else than 9L/M. And the Mav’s are part of them as well.

It’s not a 9.7 aircraft, sorry, and nerfing it artificially so it fits makes no sense. So use an alternative.

Nurfing it artificially seems to be fine if it’s the F-16 flight performance or the Tow-2B damage and pen, so no. I do not agree with that as a fair enough reason why we can’t.

It’s just creating an A-10 that can make full use of gun runs. That’s all. Much like they created tornados designed for unguided bomb runs at a BR better suited for it

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the f16 is one of the most overperforming aircraft in the game. it’s not nerfed thats for sure.

They didn’t create “Tornados designed for unguided bomb runs”. Those are just the variants before they were upgraded to carry guided bombs.

The Warthogs however always came with Mavericks and all aspect Sidewinders. There never was a variant that could not employ those weapons.

Agreed.

It gets AGM-65s.

Even better when you unlock the 65Ds.

That would still lead to complete and utter death of the A-10.

Even 8.0-8.3 SPAA are capable of killing it in less than a second when its within 2-3km, let alone 9.3-9.7 being where quite maneuverable IRCCM missiles are.

Sit at 7-8km not a single sam can touch you if you have a brain cell.

I dont know about you but being able to shoot at targets with ATGM is kinda boring when they cant do anything back unless a plane is up.

Yes SPAA with guns can kill you, im not saying your invincible, im saying it would be more fun at a lower BR.

Minus the top teir, most people die in planes because of.

  1. they are only going in for a revenge kill and dont care about anything else. (Usually will crash right after)

  2. crash into the ground to drop bombs on taegets cause they didnt have enough SP for ATGM’s

  3. bring a plane into a BR thats to high.

If your getting hit by SPAA IR you need to go into the setting and key bind the flares to a button and uses them.

Most A-10’s I see dying in 10.3 and up are to either 2S38 proxy when close or S1 or sometimes I see a prem heli. China, I believe its the Z-19E, not much you can do when a helicopter is sitting under the air spawn. Only spawn on the air field itself.