its been 10 years
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I think they are looking for any clue to nerf American equipment. After all, they have already turned half of the US equipment into God knows what. God, what did they do with the Bradley, I really loved this IFV. RIP Bradley and soon RIP ADATS.
@Demokrat4
If that was the case then HSTVL wouldn’t be the best light tank in WT, and Abrams wouldn’t be arguably the most powerful.
The Bradley has never been nerfed. The last time it was changed was when it was given the ability to fire on the move.
So its tow2b going from 500mm of pen to 100 isn’t a nerf?? swedish ifv’s still have the original 500mm pen for tow2 b’s
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TOW-2B would disagree with that statement.
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This nerf is actually justified. While the BILL 2 has a HEAT warhead (still without the tandem effect), the TOW-2B has a tantalum EFP. But idk about damage or armor Multipliers. I just don’t want touch Bradley…
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you clearly havent played since 2a7 was added
@Alpharius11348
You think the 2A7 hasn’t been added?
I got a nuke with the 2A5, stock 2A6, and 2A4M the other week.
I am fairly confident that the RBS-56B uses EFPs just like the 2B.
But this is extremely off topic.
Yeah this is an explosively formed perpetrator and how it works.
nah it aint mate
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All video it names “shaped charge”, in last 30 seconds it named “Hollow Charge Jet”.
RBS 56 use HEAT warhead. TOW-2B use uses a warhead of two 127mm tantalum EFPs. The video talks about the “tandem” of the RBS 56. Tandem is needed, it’s HEAT. EFP during tests with Kontakt-1 EFP simply pierced the ERA block and burned the explosives. It doesn’t need tandem. Also, its warheads are directed in different directions (probably to hit two crew members?)
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I mean. Previously, the penetration was 500 mm and it was HEAT. It was wrong. Now it is 100 mm and it is kinetic. Although 100 mm is an underestimated value.
The bill2 is EFP
HEAT preforms poorly in air. Hence why spaced armor exist. To over come this EFPs can be used to send a super heated perpetrator into a weak armored turret roof.
Yeah guess what an EFP is made by?
No it says shaped charge jet. which could be referring to an EFP.
Tandem is only multiple charge detonations. Something used to counteract ERA.
It’s funny you brought that up cause in your video it shows the 40mm shaped charge of the BILL2 not detonating the ERA.
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The truth is only partially.
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In accordance with the data provided in Rosoboronexport materials, the PG-7VR penetrates 650 mm of medium-hardness armour after overcoming the air lock.
I.e. 650 mm is the basic characteristic of armour penetration - arithmetic average of the depth of penetration of the shaped charge jet, taking into account the air lock.
However, without taking into account the air defence system, the penetration can be even greater. So, during the BCCT tests (many years ago) PG-72VR showed very solid figures.
Along the course of the shaped charge jet, the penetration thickness of the steel control armour barrier was 800mm and 92mm into the witness armour plate at a distance of 1.6m from the main barrier. That is 800 + 92 given 1.6 metres of air.
40mm precursor penetrated 280mm of steel. I mean… You really think so small EFP can penetrate 280mm of steel? If I remember correctly, in Soviet tests, a 100 mm EFP made of copper cladding pierced a 100 mm plate, or pierced 85 mm and chipped on another side of the plate. Also in video it says “anti tank system doesn’t have energy to Neutralize the integrated ERA”. On 4:23 btw "it was initiated by the bill 2’s forward warhead
No, BILL-2 is most certainly a traditional inverse conical shaped charge design.
Swedish infantry training manuals for BILL-2 dictate that the missile must pass over the enemy target as close as possible to minimize penetration losses. That’s a pretty obvious confirmation that the BILL-2 uses a HEAT style of shaped charge.
The problem with TOW-2B is that it is hyper classified and there’s bugger all info on EFP penetration mechanics. Should it penetrate more armor? Probably. Will gaijin change it? Unlikely.
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3:10 on your video.
You mean a shape like this? EFP Shaped Charge Assembly Cutaway (4") - Inert Replica - Inert Products LLC
Later on the dinamic test both the rear and the front warhead set off the era, 4:00 and 4:50, so they both charges seems to be heat rounds, also i really doubt that an EFP can penetrate over 510mm of armor as it shows in the video, specially for a 40mm warhead with a copper liner, as EFP heavily depends of the diameter of the charge.
The test where the the precursor did not detonate the era is likely due to the impact angles.
This topic has been going off topic long enough. I will take most of the blame for that for continued feeding into it. Could it be heat? Possibly? I find it odd they don’t label the warhead as such while it is a fairly common label for munitions. I am still it the park that it is a some other kind of warhead other than HEAT. If someone want’s to continue this my DMs are open.