Not really actually, thermal imaging can see incoming IR lights emitted from Seeker so they would be able to be tracked. I mean it would only work with any IR missiles in line of the camera system. The radar should be able to pick them up anyway because it’s pulse dopplar. I should actually make a bug report saying that IR missiles should illuminate on thermals
Just as a reminder ir missiles use a passive guidance their seeker dont “emmit ir lights”, they do have an ir signature because they are hotter than the background but thats not different with any other munition.
Guys. I can’t
A warhead is the section of a device that contains the explosive agent or toxic (biological, chemical, or nuclear) material that is delivered by a missile, rocket, torpedo, or bomb.
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I want to correct this but this whole thread hurt my brain too much for me to want to even try
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Tank destroyers that carry spikes and the Chinese Qn506 can lock ground targets. Its a mechanic already in WT.
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The tactic he plays is simple and easy to spot once you know what to look out for. He picks a small inconsequential point to argue on while dismissing or not contributing to the main point of the thread. This is so that it appears like he disagrees with entire point of the thread but in reality he hasn’t given his opinion.
Essentially what he’s doing is rage baiting. He wants people to argue on that small point so he can turn it on them and say “obviously, you don’t agree with ___ being historically accurate”.
This is to prevent from the main discussion from actually occurring. Here’s the best way counter this and which I have found to work really well.
- Straight up fact check him once. Make sure it’s really good fact check meaning that you don’t leave room for interpertation. If you do, he will take advantage of that. If he responds, hammer him on the points that he refuse to answer. It usually leads him to deflect and ignore. I do this mainly because it showcases to everyone that he’s usually wrong on most points and not to take his opinion seriously.
- Ask him his opinion on the point of the thread. This will usually lead him to deflect, or being like “I agree BUT ____ Nations also need it”. He usually doesn’t disclose his opinions because once he does (most likely an opinion that is wrong), he will have to play defense. The reason why he plays offense is because it puts the burden on you to present the counter points.
To put simply, here’s what to look out for:
- Focus on Minor Points
- Dismissal of Main Arguments
- Rage Baiting
- Deflection
- Lack of Personal Opinion
- Use of “Whataboutism”
- Inconsistent Facts
Here’s how to counter them:
- Fact Check
- Directly Address the Main Point
- Follow-Up Questions
- Highlight Deflections
- Encourage Accountability
- Stay Calm and Composed
- Document Their Responses
- Engage Others
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Better yet… Block him and don’t waste anymore time XD but i appreciate your feedback mate :)
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Going back to the topic, I really hope the ADATS does get updated to reflect these changes. Though some mechanics need to be completely reworked or changed in order for this to happen.
But I have some questions.
Radar can track up to 10 targets at once (like pantsir) Uses TADS/PNVS system
Radar should work in all weather conditions at maximum range
So I just want to clarify. The ADATS search radar is supposed to be a search/track radar? If not, does this mean that the ADATS’s IRST, can lock through clouds?
I’ve always assumed that the ADATS search radar was soley used for spoting targets and it’s IRST was used for tracking. Is that assumption now wrong with the facts you presented?
Laser should be able to be toggled so Adats can shoot over terrain and reacquire laser (like helicopters)
Does this mean that the MIM-146 has IOG? What is the practical use case for this and how will this look like in game?
The main features that I want to be implemented is the having the ability to track multiple targets, slewing to the radar, and having the ability to search/track through adverse weather conditions.
As of right now, it is practically impossible to intercept agms which is the biggest threat right now in top tier.
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The search radar has an ability to do TWS for 10 targets.
And brochure says the system can be used in adverse weather, so most likely could be used through clouds.
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Gotcha. I’m curious how this will be implemented. Would TWS change the scope of the radar. So instead of a 360 degree search it would be a 45 degree (where the radar wouldn’t move too much) as it would give you constant updates?
No. It would rotate like normal, but the update would be once a second.
I do not know anything about ADATS having sector scan.
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The best way to imagine it would be. The radar will be unchanged, but the corner only squares will appear on up to 10 targets
So if something pinged on 210, when you would look there, a square would appear where it was, and it would be updated every second.
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I think I read somewhere it is 20. Also, do you know if the ADATS uses the X-TAR 25 search radar? Couldn’t find anything about it, but they are very similar.
From this brochure:
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I base my data on 1990s data, so it might be slightly outdated.
I will be honest with you, i failed to find any info about the name of the radar. It does look simmilar, let me take a look.
Ok, it also uses dual beam (For anyone wondering, the radar splits the search beam vertically into 2, they are active at the same time, and it helps radar determine at what elevation the target it, so if a target can be seen only in the top beam, it is in the absolute top, as the target goes lower the lower beam starts to detect it, when it is in the same strength in both beams it means it is exactly in the middle, and as the target starts going down, return from the top beam gets weaker), but ADATS radar is know to be 25, so considering technlogy and design it might be a radar from the same family.
Another thing connecting the 2 can be the fact, that MMEV (ATADS evolution) would be using X-TAR3D, so a nice coincidence.
X-TAR3D
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Ooo, very nice. That makes things easier.
Well, if nto the fact that ranges now conflict. But I guess it has to do something with limited power while mounted on ADATS.
Unless the max range in the adats brochure refers to specific target detection, not instrumented range. In game instrumented range is used, so that would be a buff, but more proof (not janes, and not my books, as Gaijin was kind enough to make all 9 of them supplementary) would be needed.
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Not sure if this would be useful, but here’s the MIM-146 rocket motor performance data. This data is from AIAA 90-1862.
As a trivia, the minimum smoke propellant used in this motor is similar to those used in TOW-2, WASP, Hellfire, and Chaparral motor.
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Why is the missile twitching?
