keep buffing russia! keep nerfing every western vehicle! let’s go gaijin!
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I don’t think you realise or probably not even have 0 clue what comes out of your mouth.
The F-16C is op in CAS yes but it’s AGM-65s are way much slower than the KH-38s and can be easily intercepted by the Pantsir , meanwhile the SU-34 and now SU-30 as well can launch their 6 KH-38s as soon as it spawns and other AAs except Pantsir can’t even counter them in time (Some of time can’t even lock into them , ADATS is an example which now it got even more butchered and it’s almost useless)
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@WastedPA
“But, but muh intercepted missiles!” - Hypothetical quotes.
The aircraft is still alive and at least 3 of its missiles destroyed MBTs.
ADATS, Pantsir, etc being able to intercept Kh-38s/Hammers/PGM_3s/AGM-65s doesn’t matter when the aircraft itself is unkillable from the ground.
Then you have GPS glide munitions to cause havoc for those SPAA, making F-15E the most OP CAS in the game.
The fact that you quoted me in such childish matter tells me your immaturity.
Just because the F-16C still remains alive if its AGMs got intercepted doesn’t mean it’s a good thing because it’s still alive because what can it happen next? Go back to rearm the AGMs while my team in the mean time gets butchered by the KH-38s spam that isn’t counterable a single bit by any other AA while I need to waste my time rearming only to have myself probably be shooted as soon as I leave the airbase by an already enemy air vehicle that also happens to carry FOX 3.
If you are getting killed by the F-15E GBUs , you clearly have skill issue. The Glide Bombs for example are the easiest to encounter if you don’t sit like an braindead child in your spawn or same location all the match.
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@WastedPA
You weren’t quoted, and since all your posts have are childish immature insults… it’s clear your posts admit they’re wrong.
Also the fact your post claims that dying to the AGMs your post incorrectly calls GBUs from Su-34, F-15E, etc means you have a skill issue is hilarious.
You clearly read the F-15E section wrong or entirely jumped over some stuff.
Please quote where I said that dying by the SU-34 is an “skill issue”
[EDIT] Holy cow just checked your profile and you say that playing American Air is impossible.
Absolutely massive skill issue.
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I realise that, but again, as i said; I’m not excluding Russia from getting new SPAA either but its a pretty objective fact that Pantsir S1 is currently the best SPAA in the game, and Russia do at least have a decently, if not among the best FnF CAS munitions in the game depending on who you ask. I believe all nations need more capable SPAA seeing as there is a massive difference in capability between that and CAS. However, seeing as Russia boasts the best SPAA and great FnF munitions on a now even greater platform (Su30SM) I’d say NATO is currently in a bigger need for better SPAA, Russia needs better SPAA too.
Yes it is the best SPAA right now in the game and the fact other nations are stucked with 70-80-90s AA while Russia has an 2000 , probably 2010s AA is quite the joke.
The MIM nerf on the ADATS completely butchered the ADATS making it impossible to hit jets now.
Right now the most OP CAS in the game in direct comparison is Rafale.
With Mirage 2000DRMV, Su-34, Su-30SM, and F-15E all tied for 2nd.
Typhoon’s arguably as OP as those.
@WastedPA
Well, I hope you alleviate your self-proclaimed “massive skill issue” in American air.
American air is extremely easy to play, WastedPA.
Still dont have the ADATS but now ill definitely just stick with my Stormer then due to the IRST bonus
Don’t know much about the hammers so can’t speak on that, but I don’t see any way laser guided brimstones beat out a Kh38MT or even an AGM65 tbh, even if they have slightly better range they’re still often having to fight the Pantsir S1, which will have a much better reach to them compared to NATO SPAAs
I’ve seen one instance of Brimstones being superior first-hand, and I’ve seen arguments from at least 3 Typhoon players running Brimstones in ground that they’re the most potent ground ordnance.
I’ve also seen videos from 2 - 3 more Typhoon players in ground where they have more success than their best F-15E match which is their best CAS match overall due to how many things it can have attached.
I’m not entirely convinced myself, but the evidence is stacked.
Care to share this evidence? Also yes i can see that it has its advantages, i should’ve said “on par with” not “beat out” but even so, I’ve heard very differently. That they’re heavily lacking, and just act like a slightly more advanced hellfire with more range.
Theorically can, but, by the time someone spawns a Su-34, it will be a F-15E, Eurofighter-2000 or a Rafale C F3 flying already just waiting for someone to spawn a plane and launch a ARHAAM,
And I’m not kidding, I’ve spawned a plane once, in Alaska if I’m not wrong, less than three seconds later my RWR was beeping with “Launch” notification.
If you don’t see the ADATS as reliable, look for using another plane capable of securing the airspace around the battlefield.
Yes, it can do it: search and destroy ammunition or any small flying object with ease, it was one of the roles it was made, primarly air defence against planes and missiles.
But I like to inform: Pantsir-S1 can be strong when compared to all other anti air systems in-game which players can use, but it’s not effective anymore against top tier Jet airplanes.
Did they change how the missile flies?
No they made the MIM missile for ADATS basically impossible to see for the enemy and for yourself even. It now renders super useless against any moving air target that isn’t hovering in the air.
US SPAAs are a complete joke.
Javelin/AGM-114L, I really doubt they would be as OP as people make them out to be
Does anyone know how to mod and put the smoke back??? Putting it in war thunder live
Gaijin would ENSURE that they wouldn’t be