Back to the topic - if the REAL Panther II was in the game, what would the proper Turm Panther 2 (schmale Blendenausführung) actually look like and what gun would it mount??
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Effectively similar to the Schmalturm but without the rangefinder. Same 75 mm as the other Panthers.
I want to point out, there are schematics for a version of this turret with a rangefinder, however that only came around after the Panther II was abandoned and Rheinmetal (at the time in charge of the turret) was asked to create a new turret for the Panther that eventually would lead to the Schmalturm. Since Rheinmetal’s progress was slow, the task was then given to Daimler Benz, and they basically made a new turret from scratch which became the Schmalturm.
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The mighty M4A3E8 Easy Eight is vastly superior to the German Cats because it has better mobility, traverse speed and gun depression and will always snipe the barrel of a German Cat with 100% accuraccy, rendering them ineffective. The end.
No, of course I’m just trolling :P
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Cool stuff. I personally like the normal panther turret, looks better and works well with volumetric.
Would be a shame if someone made a bug report to fix the turret of the normal Panthers…
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/pgwa8xRpN9pK
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:-( no more turret mantlet black hole. Still doesnt impact my opinion on the better looking original Panther’s turret.
As sweden has better version of leopard 2, Sweden should get better version of panther.
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Nah, maybe as an additional vehicle. But the Original WT Panther II is non-negotiable und unreplaceable.
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I must be the only Panther player on this forum whose gun mantlet never bounced anything. 😁
I just never rely on Panther armour at all tbh. Uptiers are always likelier than downtiers at any BR, but given player population distribution, some are more affected than others.
Since the BR changes, at 6.7 I’ll get the occasional 6.7 or 7.0 game, the occasional 7.7, and many 7.3. However, playing a greater amount of games with the new 5.7 lineup after the recent changes, I’ve never played lower than 6.3.
That’s not a problem, just a factor in what you decide to do. 6.3 and 6.7 games mean you’ll see lots of M-51s, IS-2s, the occasional T34, Ontos, Su 100 P…the composition of the enemy force you are likely to face makes any protection the Panther might offer you basically irrelevant in my experience. So, the rest of the security onion gets priority.
If the real Panther II prototype came to the game, I wouldn’t pay too much attention to the shape of its gun mantlet.
It would be lower than the current in-game Pan II, because of weaker gun and depends on the engine Gj chose to put in, maybe weaker than the current Pan II.
Oh yeah, of course. I wasn’t talking with the 7.0 BR in mind, but with my recent 5.7 games in mind, where I use the Panther D frequently - and it does have a rounded gun mantlet.
I haven’t played 6.0 since the BR changes yet. Not sure how I feel about that lineup yet and what the best “game plan” for using it is gonna be.
Hmmmm, I can use the D as a break through tank destroyer. I mostly use it in longer range maps, city brawling maps are no good for the D.
Idk, but there is a solid line up with the Tiger E and the 3 panthers now.
Yes, my baseline approach is that “Tigers are flankers, Panthers are snipers”. Though with the obvious issue of map rotation I end up using Panthers as second spawn in brawling scenarios too, most of the time. You kinda have to if you want to rescue a game and have to thus push the cap.
It’s solid on paper but I’m not sure how it will play out in game, I’ll just have to find out. I think Tiger E might be a very viable flanker still, but the Panthers will probably be pretty mediocre snipers in 6.3/6.7/7.0 games; at that point if I really need a sniper I’ll just spawn a Sturer Emil or a Waffentraeger instead, they’re much better at that particular job. So I suspect Panthers are gonna become “all purpose, game is hanging in the balance and someone needs to go to the cap and try to win this thing” last-choice spawns for me at that BR, but I’ll experiment, because I might be wrong.
+1 i would like to see this added at 6.0 for battle pass or event tank with panther F turret at least you will have range finder faster reload !
and panther II in game should be renamed Panther II 88kwk.
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solid idea
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I think it would be better to duplicate it in suggestions
Yeah, sounds like a plan. Pity I dont really have time and this thread is too little information to grant a suggestion. If you have time, I guess you can suggest said vehicle.
I have bad English ;) And I’ve already created such a topic in the ru forum
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If anyone is interested
Panther II с башней от пантеры G - Передано разработчикам - War Thunder — официальный форум
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Yeah given the Panther 2 as seen in the american museum is technically a US modification of a Panther 2 hull. Yeah i think one can make a valid argument it can be added to the american tree as BP vehicle or something similar.
For the Sim players and to decrease malding ln the forum it would probably go in the germany tree.
Idk what the Abardeen reports said about this vehicle, so idk if its meaningfully better than the Panthers allready in game.