The version in the US museum should be in the US tree. The Americans put the turret on for display. Germany never intended to mount that turret on the Panther II hull.
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The amx super is in the french tree aswell while it was modified by german engineers. Panther 2 would be a similar situation. Despite putting a turret on the chassie and never fielding a tank is not a reason to put a tank in a different tree
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The German military was not involved with the AMX Super.
The US military tested the Panther II with the G turret. The Japanese tested the M47 and got it in game. The Panther II G would make an interesting premium or event vehicle.
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I’d rather it be in German tree, because I dont play America. But that’s personal.
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The E-100 in-game uses the hull of the E-100 but just puts the Maus turret on top, which afaik, was never planned. Of course it’s an easy soluation to the problem of not having any other specs for the real turret.
It’s the same story with the Panther II. You have a hull but the originally intentended turret was never created so there are no specs for it.
The only Panther improvement that makes sense is the Panther F with the legendary KwK 44/2 with 5rd autoloader. It’s probably the same system we can see in the Chi-Ri II or ARL-44 x-ray model in-game, that’s very similiar to the loading assist mechanism of a German FlaK, where rounds are picked up from a tray and feed into the gun, except that the KwK 44/2 would have a 5rd vertical magazine.
It would be a substantial firepower upgrade.
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Oh wow another crying US main, it’s a German tank needs to be in German tt, by your logic M1A1 AIM should go to Britain right? By your logic the M3 Grant needs to be in the British tech tree, not an American premium, by your logic the F-16 needs to go to Britain.
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Your argument was that the Panther ii should go to USA because they tested it. Australia tested (and used) the AIM, New Zealand tested and purchased F-16A Block 15. Therefore they should go to GB, because it is the country with closest ties
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Yes, the US is a tree in the game. Australia and New Zeland are not trees in the game.
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hell, I want the Tiger II (105). IDC if it’s a paper vehicle, it’s cool. Nerf its depression, remove the rangefinder, and maybe give it its vertical stabilizer. 7.0 premium or event vehicle. Would 100% be worth the grind or money.
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Both are a part of the commonwealth, neither are only just allies with the US. Au and NZ are both under the King’s rule, not America’s
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M3 Grant should 100% be in the British Tech tree tho. It’s a British variant of the M3 Lee; like the Sherman Fireflies Britain should get access.
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That’s not how it works. That only comes up if the vehicle has no other tree it’s related to. And it’s funny you say I’m a US main crying when you’re begging for vehicles used by a country that you used to be in charge of. You aren’t even using those vehicles and you have nothing to do with them.
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I know it should, that wasn’t my point though, my point was that according to him, all American vehicles tested by countries should go to the country that tested them, if that is so, there could be about 50 - 70 more copy paste tech trees available
Big, big, big seconded.
Me too, since it would fit my playstyle quite well.
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New Zealand and Australia are related to GB. They are governed by the same monarch.
You’re a US main, and you want a German vehicle in the US tree because it’s better than everything you have.
I’m a Kiwi, I was never in charge of the commonwealth neither, I am but a lonely peasant, not a ruling monarch lmao.
Britain is in charge of the Commonwealth, they rule over those two countries. Yes, they are independently governed, but they have the same ruling monarch.
I’d agree with you, if you wanted to let your Filipino aircraft go to Japan.
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Funny, according to everybody else on the forum, the M4 Sherman and the M26 Pershing are both better than any German WWII vehicle. I don’t want it because it’s better, I want it because it’s unique. That version only exists because it was assembled that way by the US museum. As for only being tested, the Japanese M47 and Tiger were both only tested.
Yes. Australia and New Zealand are both so close with the British that you, check notes, don’t buy their equipment.
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Ok, get one person who isn’t a troll, to come here and explain to me, in detail, why an M4 Sherman is better than a Panther G, or a Tiger, tell me why and how an M26 is better than a Tiger ii.
I want A-4K because it’s unique, what happens? Gaijin doesn’t add it, and if they do it will go to the US tech tree, when it should be in the British tech tree.
Still German equipment, yes, the US did assemble it, but that doesn’t make it a US tank,
Japanese Tiger didn’t even make it to Japan afaik. Don’t know anything about the M47. Also the Japanese Tiger was sent to Japan via lend lease, it wasn’t just kind of taken by Japan
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We used to buy British equipment, but American aircraft work better for New Zealand and Australia, due to how our countries operate, and if you want to check your notes again, New Zealand don’t have any American combat aircraft or tanks either.
Edit: New Zealand used to operate Strikemaster, which was British, and used up until 1992, just before the combat aircraft were disbanded
Killa Kiwi isn’t a troll. I disagree with them but they know what theirs talking about. Necrons but I don’t know if he’s on the new forum.
The Panther II G is even less historical in the German tree. The Chinese have a captured T-62 that’s just a museum piece.
So the Tiger I not even making it to Japan but ending up in their tree just further justifies the Panther II G in the US tree.
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Get Killa Kiwi to explain to me how an M4 is better than a Panther G or Tiger. Do it. (Obviously in war thunder, not irl, I know German tanks had some issues irl)
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