That’s why his argument, yet not presented properly, has a point, even the losing team or the Nuke target can’t counter because their tickets are bleeding nonstop which either they’ll lose by the Nuke explosion or the game mechanic.
On top tier its to ez to counter tbh
As long as you can still get kills, it doesnt matter.
Ticket bleed stops, now one team has however long they want to push back the other team even if they dont control any cap.
Assume tickets stop bleeding with nuke plane spawning, its on losing team, and nuke plane stays at airfield or circles it under cover of airfield AA.
The losing team now has however long they need to push back the winning team.
Thats what i mean by abusable mechaic
thats a bad faith argument, how many people that if given an instant win button won’t push it to let their team rack up more kills like what? this is warthunder the least team teambased game.
and as you say, it doesnt matter as long as you can still get kills
Its a bad faith argument to present a scenario where such mechanic would be abusable because…?
you said it yourself, as long as you can get kills it doesnt matter, losing team probably has less players already so is easier to wipe out, and youd probably still lose tickets for dying so pushing agressively is a bad play, and remember if the losing team has a free win button, why wouldnt they use it?
its a bad faith argument assuming people would abuse it instead of using their free win button
Your argument of my scenario being presented in bad fait hinges on assumption NO WT PLAYER WOULD ABUSE A GAME MECHANIC?
You hope for other players is admirable.
why would a losing team abuse a mechanic to stop their team losing instead of yaknow, using the free win button to win instantly?
If air is contested by enemy fighters and nuke has no hope of reaching the battlefield, why wouldnt the losing team take no ticket bleed for rest of the game instead of getting their nuke plane shot down?
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Its like any other situation where players can collude to “farm” points. From what I’ve seen nukes happen under two conditions, 1 team has dominated so much that the nuke is just an after thought, and 2 a team is losing and its a way of countering the above.
I don’t see how making the ticket bleed stop makes that better, in fact it creates the perfect conditions for “farming” by a dominate team. It takes the drama out of getting (and using) a nuke.
- like I already said, if losing team is already losing, it’ll be harder for them to get back the win and to do so theyd have to play aggressively or be just better at the game, either will be harder than normal as theyll have reduced players since theyve been losing and also they have less deaths they can take before they win, and if they are just better they wouldnt be losing in the first place
- its really not that hard to sneak through “contested” airspace with a nuke plane
So again why wouldnt the losing team take no ticket bleed for the rest of the game instead of trying to drop the nuke but likely getting killed in the process due to airspace being contested?
Lmao.
I’m well aware of how this game works, but 1, its not really collusion if youre on the same team, 2 it would stop bleed not ticket loss from death, 3 the enemy team can still run out of tanks, 4 to be honest I think most warthunder players are selfish and would rather get nuke number go up on their stat card than help out their team, as you said Hi, Welcome to War Thunder! its how the game has always worked
people who rush to nuke expect them to have priority over the entire game if they drop it or not
did you read what I said? because if one team gets a nuke and theyre behind the enemy team in points and players, theyre far more likely to win by pushing the free win button, than by stalling the game out (the game that theyre already losing and they just lost their best player because theyre now sitting in a nuke plane doing nothing)
It is collusion between the player sitting on the nuke and the rest of their team who get to keep clubbing a defeated team for lolz. Or for said team to hold a game open so their team can do a come back.
Read OP’s post/suggestion again.
no you, OP says to get rid of ticket bleed if anyone has a nuke
you mean the thing that would happen anyway if nukes didnt exist?