100% off topic, but crazy how many people are blind to it
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Congrats on making me laugh.
Go back to 4chan with your schizoid conspiracies, I’m done engaging with you because you’ve outed yourself as a troll or an idiot, probably both.
And as for your little whistleblower he had mental issues as well
“ A temporary detention order transferred (Grusch) to a psychiatric unit and inpatient program where he got the treatment that he needed”.
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You’re going off topic for no other reason than to win a “debate”. This topic is talking about the state of the Abrams, and the issues that it currently has.
There are historical inaccuracies in which it needs to be corrected. These issues has been submitted and been acknowledged by the devs. People who argue anything other than the validity of the sources and have liked the “bingo” card are hypocrites.
You can argue about the current state of the Abrams however you either need to play or have played against it to make an argument. It would be even better to have done both to get a full picture. The issue is you done nothing of this yet act like you have.
You are contributing nothing to the conversation (so has the majority of people here) and only want to cause drama
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I don’t believe you’ve actually read my othrr posts here, only the most latest one.
The Abrams, like any other tank, deserves to have its fully realistic capabilities to the extent of full balance. This would be significantly easier if people tried advocating for improvement, rather than immediately jumping to “Garbage it’s not real Abrams”.
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It’s fair to question the validity and sincerity of his opinions by considering other things he has said.
If I for example said I hate America and Russia is the best country in the world, you would be fair to consider me biased towards Russia and thus question my opinions about other things in the game.
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How so?
Both of which are excessively dense materials that were chosen specifically due to their propensity against KE penetrators.
Woah, effective armor is effective???
Because… That’s what they’re designed for…?
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The issue is that this should’ve been stated in the very beginning of the thread instead of mocking and lumping in people who have genuine suggestions for the Abrams:
And because of this, it’s very hard to see any genuine statements as genuine. That is my issue here and with the majority of people on this thread.
@MrBaleadas099 asked a question. He didn’t say Abram sucks, give abrams M829A3^3, he simply asked a question. I have my doubts of the intent of asking that question but I’ll answer it regardless. Neither you or many people in the beginning of this thread didn’t do that. It was unproductive and waste of time.
See, you could start mocking people once they make these outlandish claims but you didn’t. Instead, you anticipated what people were going to say and said it ahead of time.
There should be a separate channel discussing the Abram’s technical data though. It’s quite annoying to see the same type of thread pop up here and there.
Nothing wrong with that and didn’t say I supported everything @sartt said however it doesn’t help your case when you were made a bingo card mocking everyone (including the people with genuine suggestions).
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That’s a good point, I probably could have started more constructive, it was just seeing other players having experienced the same thing I have made me more inclined to say things I shouldn’t have.
Thank you for pointing that out, I will keep it in mind next time.
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Bvm isn’t worse at all, it’s exactly on par, the deciding factor is what map. That is it, nvm will be better on some maps, Abrams on the others. Type 10 is in the same position. What situation you’re in and gameplay dictates which of the 2 would be better. Those 3 tanks are basically equal to each other and quite well balanced.
You mean like
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The Abrams thread you’re all in?
See above, take notice of what thread you’re in and who’s talking. Don’t be purposefully obtuse, those people exist in all groups here. It’s called a confirmation bias, you’re experiencing it right now.
What a tone def comment. Complaining about not being able to have a discussion and then joining a thread not about your stuff and derailing it and dismissing things.
The hypocrisy of this forums users is at times incredibly hard to stomach because it’s hard to believe someone writes these things with a straight face. You mean to complain about something affecting your nation, while literally being here doing what you’re complaining about US mains doing?
It writes itself.
Confirmation bias.
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I strongly disagree. After playing a few matches of 7.7 Britain I refuse to play anything that requires my team to be competent. If I cannot carry or hold down half the map by myself, I do not want it.
guys this is so unfair the abrams sucksksks we need f2-2 rpaotr and am-9x III and ambrams x to compete with bvm and fankor.
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Can’t wait for the US main rage when he gets his handheld raptor shitter shattered through his own incompetence.
“Bro wtf how 2 dodge undodgeable r-79 misslor wtf so unfair raptor best jet how come my kd 1:10 in it”
Anyways another thread made by a US main shitter getting assblasted that he sucks at a kids game
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so i just linked you to the U.S Government congressional hearing where members of the military were testifying under oath, and your response is go back to 4chan?? Go back to leveling up and you might make it into tier 6 ground kiddo.
yeah off topic and he brought it up, but hey if people want to keep their heads up their ass about that topic i’d say let them already talked to people before they died that worked in the C.I.A , and air force about this and have my own friends who were in the Navy all say they’ve seen this stuff first hand.
nice nuke
@HondaCivici
See thats the problem, thats all these people have ever done and they are mainly RU mains, hell even @SPANISH_AVENGER have noticed most of these people don’t even have any vehicle near top tier but they want to jump on the bandwagon simply because they hate the U.S, even gaijin has people on their team that have been caught trying to keep people bug reports closed down ( heres looking at you trxxster ) and they sit and wait YEARS before they fix something. It took them 5 YEARS to finally give the HSTLV its proxy rounds and the ability to lock onto aircraft, and it took them what 3 year to give the begleipanzer its stabilizer.
then you have these people asking stupid questions or making completely insane statements " the abrams has no spall liner! " meanwhile anyone with a brain that knows what Line-X is at Du-pont are sitting here laughing at these people. The Entire Abrams line of vehicles have spall liners, the bradley have spall liners, the m113s have spall liners, the M60A3 has spall liners, the stryker has spall liners, even the HSTLV has spall liners.
Oh let them keep that bingo card, i need something to laugh at.
Another thing, you see how more of these people are making mocking posts?
This is all they do day after day.
and im going to make another point at how badly gaijin treats nations at this game and how certain nations are easier to play
Now let look at the gaijin favorite tanks/meta tanks
Oh its another person who has high win rates in russian tnks but low win rates in american tanks… I WONDER WHAT COULD BE THE CAUSE OF THAT?
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I mean, to sum it up, Abrams is high ceiling, can do very well in, with the reload in combination with good mobility and depression, however survivability will mean if you are not so good, using the wrong tactics (or in a bad map) or just on a bad day it will not work at all. Russian tanks, less skill required, less likely to be killed whilst the reload and mobility does mean you can’t do as well as Abrams in some advantageous situations, but overall, people care more about when they are doing badly. And Clickbait… Plus US CAS comes out way too much, I literally see 0 USA ground players after 5 minutes.
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How did he acknowledge some of these, I am not saying these reports are false, but his attitudes towards other reports are very different, such as encyclopedias and tertiary websites are all considered by TrickZZter as non valid, although I do see the valid points, he has applied a seemingly different standard to these reports.
same does as Russian main think they need T-14 to complete with Strv 122
long ago they need R-73 to complete with AIM-9L lol
T-90M when 2A6 came out too hey
they are mocking about US but they aren’t any better (or worse)
now the recent one R-77-1 to complete with AIM-120A (when there are AIM-120C-7 when R-77-1 put to service lol)
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How about we stop adding bonkers new tech all together.
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