Is that an IED hit? Looks like one
probably will balance out a bit but by no means at all will they be close. just like the Tigris vs all other tiger 1s in game.
that abrams was an RPG hit that caused an uncontrollable fuel fire in 2003 iirc. the crew was fine. was just an example to show that the tank is very much not invincible. Wish american mains knew this
Look at how the ground around it appears blown up from below, as well as the track being blown apart. That does not add up with an RPG hit leading to a fuel fire.
It could be lost mobility due to an IED and then got taken out as the guy said by a well placed RPG, doesn’t really go against the point he made though.
Almost anything can be destroyed by a large IED, it’s like judging a tank’s survivability based on if it can take a hit from a FAB-5000.
The best part is it looks like the crew did survive and bail out like he said as well, which just goes to show how survivable it is
Yeah the thing was if it was taken out of action by and IED but was actually finished by and RPG, the real issue is comparing a stationary target and a perfectly aimed shot to other situations more so than how it would survive being hit by a nuke lol.
yeah the ABRAMs isn’t some unkillable tank as like he said
think they are there meant to be affective at their job while also keeping the soldiers inside alive as either a first or second priority, that’s what makes it great sadly that doesn’t apply to war thunder as a pretty arcade shooter…
if its taken out of action by a large IED its already finished off.
nothing is, but its very resistant to most weaponry
What the
I have so many questions, first and foremost - is that player allright?
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I wanted this evidence so badly.
And now we have it…
I’ve been calling the Abrams a top 3 tank for years, it was even #1 multiple times, especially when Strv 122 was still stuck using DM33 when Abrams and Leos were using M829A2, and DM53, and everyone else was using 3BM60 equivalent rounds.
@VALKEN
T-series tanks are not as good as Abrams, and have never been.
Always firing inferior rounds, with the only armored ones having notably inferior mobility, and of course the 1.1 - 2 second slower reloads after the T-series reloads were buffed.
I get you want to trash on American vehicles, but the evidence has always been here for you to accept.
Edit: I have nothing against you, and hope my message doesn’t cause you stress.
I’ve read your posts and appreciate the fact you wrote your perspectives.
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yeah sorry, I realised that after you flagged the first one, the second was edited to be better did you flag that one on accident?
nvm i realised i missed it, I read over it twice and still missed that lol mb
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nope I am not alright, friend essentially kidnapped me from my air to grind USA ground because he preferred ground over air, I said sure and a couple months later when are friend group was doing a gift exchange he got me it felt like it would be a waste not to use it, he doesn’t even play anymore lol.
I have a hatred for the mode at almost every BR, doesn’t help that I personally do not care about a single tank or IFV outside the Bradley in real life.
It literally pushed me to the brink of insanity, i.e. cold war autocannon rats, or really small CQB maps at top tier like made me realise I could play ten other shooter games and get a similar experience with out the feeling of hating the video game i was playing, like I could have been playing Titanfall, Battlefield, overwatch, apex and so many others, however I refused to give up until I at least got to the end cause might as well complete it so when I eventually got to Heli’s I could learn top tier, I’ve reached that point now so I’m slowly playing the earlier BR’s to build up some of those fundamental skills.
I will always say this no matter how bad the TT air meta got after fox3’s it will always be better to me then even the pinnacle of ground balance, ( to be fair it never really was a pinnacle of balance its always been much worse than air balance.)
anyways back to point like I haven’t touched the clickbait properly in like nearly half a year so when he posted that image I actually had an aneurysm trying to figure out how I even managed to be that bad, like I’m good at other shooter games but like what was I even doing to accomplish that terrible of a K/D on the best premium tank in the game at the time ,( still think it is I was just terrible.) like that’s .2 a kill per death lmao.
I believe this one should be family friendly MR. MightyBaozi sorry about that lol
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The shadow notification has been explained.
@VALKEN I didn’t get a chance to read your rule offending post, but I’ve amended my post to hopefully allow you to know I have no ill will toward you or your posts.
oh it wasn’t an insult towards you accidentally called myself s**T and it got caught I dont know how I missed that lol
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Oh the stats are up, NICE!
I was just sayin a week ago:
Abrams have never been a weak tank (at least after reload buff) It has always be a pretty good tank however i would still like it to get its turret ring fixed (pls gaijin it has been 2 years since bug report)
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TLDR: Your 100% correct, the overall strengths of the ABRAMS means it still is better than the T-series even if they have niche areas where they are stronger I.e. LFP size and UFP protection don’t outweigh the reload, round and speed. however personally the QOL issues when in a average or below average players hands makes it worse than if they were to play the t-series. This is probably where are opinions differ you are probably much better than I am at ground.
Yeah, I will fully admit I am not a amazing ground player since my focus is primarily on air so what I tend to personally rank things on, is their survivability and QOL.
All have in general overview much better capability than the t-series, especially when in hull down or any long distance shooting with cover, in these situation I believe it is the best tank in game nothing can change my mind on that. The only thing it was missing was the LWR over other tanks which it has now.
The m1 at 10.7 is the exception to what I’m about to say, that thing is IMO the single best 10.7 tank.
however why I ranked them to be roughly similar is cause in all honesty I am not a master of ground I am pitiful at it when it comes to CQB matches specifically(which seem to be the only ones in my match maker, like come on.) this leads to me seeing it as just less fun to take out, massive weak spots that are very easily penned by all rounds at such close distances and if your flanked at all even like 2-3 autocannon shots to the side completely destroy your ability to fight unless someone takes out the IFV.
Now that isn’t really that bad and in a player who is good hands they probably would never be in that situation but I legitimately cannot figure out how your meant to play the Abrams in CQB matches it cant play COD like I watch t-series players and some Swedish leopards due, it feels to big and easily crippled by flanks to hold angle for 30 minutes like some players.
I personally felt it didn’t fit either of the two playstyles well in the slightest which is why I overall ranked it tied with the t-series obviously giving a bit of lee way for it to be better or slightly worse. you definitely have more experience especially on ground so your evaluation is probably more accurate but the QOL features gives it the experience of a bad tank despite not really being bad in the slightest.
Sidenote I do kinda want to get back into it to actually use my AH1Z and ah64E, so time to relearn the game lol.
so if anyone has a single good guide regarding ground top tier that would be appreciated I do really good on the rare large maps but the common maps I simply cant find a playstyle that either works or feels enjoyable to play. I do kinda want to get back into it to actually use my AH1Z and ah64E, so time to relearn the game lol.
I see this a lot what even is the bug? is it the same as the trunnion armour one or is it a separate thing.
I think this is aimed at those people claiming it’s “completely unplayable”, not those asking for legitimate bug fixes, and the Abrams turret ring getting penned by 30mm APDS is pretty ridiculous, but it also wont make much difference against another MBTs round.
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