About the New Airfield SPAA

Dev Server "Tusk Force" General Discussion - Dev Server
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In the New Update Airfield SPAA is getting reworked for Higher BRs, while a Great change a lot can be done

Shilka is an improvement over VEAK-40 as an airfield defence, but is more than likely not good enough

On the Dev server currently the Airfield SPAA is modelled as the Strela-10M, this is much of an improvement over the old AMX-30 Roland, with Elevation Limits, and less noticeable of a motor, however, it is still very short ranged, and won’t protect against enough for the BR

Strela-2M shouldn’t be used instead, as a MANPAD, it will have even shorter range, currently this SAM can be seen on the German Coastal ship “Bernau” and is much less capable than Strela-10M, with highly limited all aspect range, short flight range, and overall being much weaker

While an Improvement, it can be heavily improved

My Proposition:
Replace ZSU-23-4 with M247 Sargent York, the 40mm Tracerless Proximity rounds will provide great deterrent against airfield strafing, and in fact, we used to have this …until the VEAK lost its proximity rounds

Replace the Strela with one of the Former top SAM Systems, such as ItO-90M seen in the Swedish and French trees,

which the VT1 missile will be a large improvement over the 9M37M of the Strela-10M, 9M32M of Strela-2M and Roland-2 of the current AMX-30 Roland

Should Airfield SPAA be Further Improved?

  • Yes
  • No
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Should They be the vehicles I Proposed or different vehicles

  • Yes, ItO-90M + M247
  • Yes, but different vehicles (Specify)
  • No to Previous Poll
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I think Gepard + Type81C/EldE98 + ITO90M might be a better choice. IR SAM and RDR SAM allow for coping with more attack methods.

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honestly, i dont see a need for stronger Airfield defenses. I rarely land, most people probably land rarely as well and all it would do is make airfield camping possible again like at low tier. There is nothing to do and you wait for the last enemy to circle his airfield, or you have plebs running to the airfield once you get their six in a fight. It sucks to be strafed while reloading but at higher brs you wont need to reload too often for it to be worth it compared to having no airfield campers.

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I want to say maybe for the further SPAA improvements.

Whilst im not against stronger SPAA for the AFs… It would be nice to come with apapropriate counter SEAD gameplay.

Kinda irrelevant in ARB in 99.999% of matches, but for ASB (and we have to assume RB changes will be reflected in SB) it would be nice to have that aspect of gameplay mantained. Proper SEAD coupled with runway denial would be really interesting to have.

It also should be apporpriate per nation and be far more varied from BR to BR.
they tend to pick one for a large range of BRs and leave it for ages. But that can be OP at the lower end of the bracket and complete snooze-fest at the upper end

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Pansir S1 x 4. zsu and Strela aren’t very effective

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would be nice if they were to introduce stuff like C-RAM (E.g.: Land Phalanx, Ak-630, Skynex), etc to shoot down missiles, bombs and rockets. Often you are not able to get back into a fight when you are just taking off again bc sb followed you to get an easy kill

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I disagree, I think the current AA is the perfect balance of offering some defense but still allowing skilled players to survive within its range

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yeah strong munition defence but mediocre/weak spaa would probably be the best.

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Nah, fuck airfield AAA, I hope they remove them from every single BR

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Why?

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Having a force field thats over 8km long, where you cant get close and the enemy just hangs around, wasting my time and prolonging the game? No thanks.

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its a horrible mechanic that promotes boring and passive play

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type81 has no range…

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reason why lowtier is boring, its either a passive bomber or a airfieldcamper

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only about 4 km… and sometimes if your dogfighting them in the enemy airfield if you fly close enough at the right time… the missile will hit the enemy. It a quite useful way to let the enemy teamkill it own allies.

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I think it really depends, Better airfield defence stops people camping above waiting for easy kills however it further encourages camping ON the airfield

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I think yes. Should be improved. Replace airfield AAA with nuclear strike on the enemy airfield 25 into the game (so like 5s after spawn), regardless of tier, make it so even airspawners get caught in the blastwave, so I don’t have to suffer through AF campers.

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thats one way i guess. Maybe have a group of bombers spawn in and if they arent intercepted and get to drop its a win or it disables airfield defense

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With that thought process just remove airfields at that point. No reason to go back and reload, just reinforce the idea of crashing into the ground to deny kills. +1

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it encourages people to camp on the airfield bc there is not enough discouragement. Everytime a person is setting up a strafing run you can just J out, and why wouldnt you if the AAA isnt good enough to give you a chance to get back on your feet.

Better AAA and a higher penalty for camping is the only solution

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