Ahaha boring right like getting an F14 and slinging Aim54s at base bombers
It would be fine to balance lol
F104 is faster than everything at its br
MiG25 can be too
F15 F16 Rafael Typhoon far outclass other nations ‘balanced’
Why can’t Russia have a good jet at any br anymore
The Tu22 isn’t massive lol it’s long the wingspan is barley bigger it’s payload capacity is a third of the B1 wingspan and mass is important lol as well as how it flys it’s literally USED AS A STRIKE AIRCRAFT IRL
Ofc yes bring up the prototype jet after saying the R27EA doesn’t exist lmao a missile which saw service unlike ur prototype
It’s missiles weren’t even made lmao so it is just an empty plane
Bro I’m talking about the R77P which should be in the game… Not that hard to understand
And I’ll tell you again the MiG 29 can beat an F16 in guns only irl LOOK IT UP German MiG29s v F16 when it was first added it was able to compete then guess what it was nerfed
Like the R37 was being tested in the 90s and got a 300km splash but I’ll admit it’s a touch unfair rn with map size but Russian radar is too nerfed to even work at that range anyway
R-77P became the R-77-1…You want the missile in between?
Tu-22 is massive strike aircraft…Well yes you dont need 3000 mile range when the adversary is on your doorstep. Tu-22 apart from dropping a FAB 5000 on Avostal has been used to launch cruisemissiles. As have the Tu-120 and Tu-95s
B1s and 52 were used as CAS platforms in Afghanistan would you class the B1 as a CAS aircraft?
Yes and the F-104 has a gun and some Aim9s, very different.
Boring to you, BVR is largely that way shooting missiles at dots.
Yes they did until the US learned the operating regime of the 29. After which US pilots felt confident in dealing with the MiG 29 in close quarters.
Sustained Turn Rate: The F-16 can maintain a high turn rate for longer periods, allowing it to out-turn the MiG-29 in extended maneuvers.
High-Speed Performance: At higher speeds, the F-16 can easily out-maneuver the MiG-29.
Cockpit Visibility: The F-16 pilot has better situational awareness due to a superior view from the cockpit.
nstantaneous Turn Rate: In very tight turns at low speeds, the MiG-29 can out-turn the F-16 due to its high instantaneous turn rate.
Helmet-Mounted Sight: The MiG-29’s advanced helmet-mounted sight allows for off-boresight missile launches, giving it a potential advantage in close-in engagements.
Taken from US pilot evaluations. So no the MiG 29 doesnt have the F-16 in BFM.
R-37M has the longest recorded missile kill 120miles I believe and no, Russian Radars will improve the Su-30SM will have a great Radar and the Su-35 with IRBIS will bring them back up to the level.
Sadly US AESA will surpass most Radars ingame.
Hell, adding the R-77 itself would be anachronistic. As much as I’d love a 27EM or something that was supposed to be on the Su-33, it’s perfectly fine how it is now.
Worst comes to worse, the Su-35 can be added. That, or the Su-27SM3.
I have a question for you. Do you realize the R-77 we have in game was the model that only saw service for literally a week before it was replaced with the R-77-1. The R-77 had so many extreme issues. One of the more common ones was the missle would self detonate the moment it left the rail because of the vibration of the booster. So quite literally every jet in war thunder that uses the R-77 should actually get the R-77-1
Gaijin feel the R-77 is sufficient. I doubt it was only a week
Russian federation was in it’s infancy when this missile was delivered. Why would they deliver a faulty missile?
From what I can see it was rolled out to certain units and was replaced. So it did see service and thats enough for Gaijin.
Dude do some research. The R-77 once it was out of testing and put into service was the same time they were already working on the R-77-1 and within a week of the R-77 being in service it was retired. Then replaced with the R-77-1 because it was built to basically fix all the issues the R-77 had. The instant exploding when fired, the engine not even starting, the radar seeker not turning on, the seeker not listening to the jet’s signal, the engine just stopping randomly, the engine falling out of the rocket. The list goes on why it was replaced so quickly. Within that week they lost I think is was like 3 jets because of the issues with it making it just explode
That is wild! Guess that means the R-77 we have in game actually performs like the R-77-1 as it doesnt explode on the rail and can actually track targets :P
What about the export RVV-AE did that have the same issues?
I think it’s only a matter of time before the R-77-1 is added to the game.
The resson the R-77 in game doesnt do that is because why would it be added if it does that. Ever since R-77s and Aim-120s have been added ive only been killed by a R-77 once. 90% of the time at top tier most people die by Aim-120s and 10% Micas.
With the F/A-18 being added this coming update USSR will need something better than the plain R-77 or R-77-1. Ive ran into people saying that Aim-120s aren’t that OP but they are the number 1 most used missle in the game and have the highest kill rate on the game.
I have been killed plenty of times by an R-77 a good Su-27SM or even Su-34 pilot can make the missile work. R-77 becomes real scary within that 15km range mark it pulls more G off the rail than a 120 and a good flanker pilot can death star multiple jets. Similar to the MICA it excells as medium to short ranges.
Trying to out BVR an F-15E flying at 40kft at mach 2.0 armed with 120s is never going to end well and a Rafale and Typhoon pilot will tell you the same thing.
F/A-18C mode doesnt really offer much in top tier it will not have the performance of the F-15E but it could carry 10 120s.
120s are used more because more nations use the AMRAAM.
Italy, Germany, Israel, Sweden, UK, Japan.
R-77 users
Russia, China
the data will always be skewed that’s not say that the 120 is probably the best BVR missile in the game.
I get all that. Just there need to be something changed or given to USSR and other nations that dont use aim-120s to make up for the new F18 being a extreme CAS heavy aircraft that can easily defend itself. Not to mention at one point recently the devs talked about the Aim-9x being added around the time the F/A-18 is added.
The way I see it the missiles are used for balance.
R-77 is poor at long range but good at short to medium
120 is great at longer ranges but suffers at short ranges
MICA is poor at long range but great at short range and decent at medium ranges.
Su-27 carries 10 missiles?
If you give the Su-27 the best radar and an equal BVR to the F-15E you invalidate that jet.
Gaijin sees the Su-27 as the medium to short range brawler.
Realistically, all that’s need to happen is for Gaijin to get around fixing the FM of the R-77. All of the issues of the OG R-77 fit under the “no malfunction” rule of Gaijin.
The thing that make it both it and the MICA bad are the absence of range, and obscene drag that compounds with manœuvers further kneecaping what little range already is available.