Yeah it sucks that they refuse to add any of the cool light tanks or anything even remotely interesting.
I’m still hoping they will go back on this and add an EBRC Jaguar or something interesting instead.
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More 12.0 MBT’s (not needed) and a singular 10.7 to make a line-up with… a singular Roland.
Weird choices really, seems like it was just done for ease. Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V.
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Gaijin really has just become massively lazy with vehicle additions, generally just adding a ton of copy paste vehicles into evwry tree they can instead of paying more designers to make new vehicles for the trees that are lacking them.
The Netherlands in the french or german tree situation is both partially hilarious and partially infuriating because I have yet to meet a french player thats happy (no buff/fix to leclerc, dutch light vehicles being added instead of famous french ones like EBRC Jaguar) and the german players are livid (evetyone is getting leopards to the point where every battle feels like mixed battles and their air tree is stuck with massive holes at top tier becauze they cant get the dutch F-16’s anymore)
Its just pure idiocy born of laziness and greed on gaijins part.
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Yeah, I think the same, would be better than those daily bonuses imo.
I actuallly made similar suggestion on the Russian forum.
Like once you researched vehicle in one TT, you can also buy it in another one. Although it should work only for exact copies (same base 3D model, without consideration of small visual differences, same modifications and br) in regular trees. For example, you’ve just researched Chinese M4A4, now you can also buy French and Italian one, once you buy everything below them in lines of course.
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Man playing germany is F U N
You can fight: Italian Leos, Swedish Leos, French Leos, Gaijub why not add a russian LEO aswell?
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Attempt I made on the dev server section to draw attention to the Leclercs, which is what France ACTUALLY needs:
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Very kind thank you, I doubt however it will amount to anything …
The Devs reliance on stats is what will eventually cause their downfall
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France is one of the nations I’ve fully researched in tanks, and I’m really against this idea. Just fix the Leclercs and add more domestic vehicles. They can get the Leclerc XLR, Leclerc XLT and Zayed just to name a few.
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As a french main I fully understand your arguments (and i mostly aggree with it, ngl) BUT gameplay wise, as the buff of the leclercs will never come, i’m still kinda happy to have top tier tanks that are not upmost mid af.
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Phantom against SU-27SM
Solid ARB
lol
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That’s just top tier, which everyone knows that Germany sucks at. The rest of the tree except the early jets is decent, but it’s never super dominant.
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Keep in mind that flarakrad shouldn’t have access to vt-1 missile as Germany never fielded them… They were only tested
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Even if they refuse to unfuck the leclercs they could have added some other actually french stuff that would have been a lot more interesting without turning france into germany vol.2 and making Germany worthless
It is lame as fuck how they are too lazy to just fix the leclercs even after all the reports or maybe add some cool light vics like the vextra with the 120 or even the EBRC Jaguar, with how shitty F&F missiles are on tanks im sure the akeron would be fine.
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we 100% aggree on that point
Pain in the ass to grind AND USE
Don’t forget that the UHT only has 8 missiles and no gun as comparable helicopters have 16 missiles
Also don’t forget the bug reports about the outer pylon having 2 Spike holders, and ATAS being above it ;P
I do agree that the lack of a turret and the mid A2A missiles do make it really bad at defending itself but while you do just get 8 missiles but they are probably the best AT missiles out of any helicopter what with being actually good fire and forget.
Never heard about the combined Spike/ATAS thing though.
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Hard disagree.
They are immensely slower than comparable missiles, by the time they get there, the target is dead already.
Comparable helicopters, with FNF missiles, such as the Israel AH-60 gets 16!!! Spike ERs (better PARS 3 LR) with ~1km of longer range!
Even the Fr*nch Tiger HAD gets a gun mount, same amount of (better) missiles, and double the CMs.
and yes there is a bug report with a Tiger UHT having the double 4x PARS launchers in the normal spot, with the additional double 2x PARS launchers where the ATAS currently sit. I believe (could be wrong) that the ATAS then sit right above the 2x PARS launcher.
Pars are faster than spike, the max speed of the spike is 180m/s
Also the experimental twin pars launcher on outboard station take the place of the ATAS so no you can’t have both
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What are you getting at here?
PARS 3 goes 290m/s, STILL slower than every other comparable missile. (600m/s Vikhr/ 480m/s Hellfire 2/ 550m/s Ataka/ 345m/s AKD-10)
Spikes get 1km more range, this might not seem like a lot, but it is.
0 proxy fuze, can’t use against planes.
Comparable helis (can) get DOUBLE the amount of missiles.
PARS and Spikes have ~1/3 the amount of explosive material in them compared to other missiles.
Let’s also not forget how they do NOT perform their signature “Top-Down” attack.
Well the only comparable missile to the pars is the spike as both are the only FnF missile
Comparing to other missile is quite dumb as all of them require the launcher to expose themselves.
Anyway this subject is far from the dutch leopard
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