About Nuclear Escalation and the Bomber Damage Model by BVV_d

This wasn’t completely directed towards you, but I didn’t use the ping feature so I’ll take it. I’m saying that even if the S-300s are moved back, there should be better mid-tier AA for Russia than the 2s6, Tor M-1 and 2s6 combo would suffice, but that’s up for debate per usual. Granted if the ITOS are going to stay in the picture

So then what’s the point here.

You’re complaining about there always being another aircraft in a mode that has unlimited respawns. That’s kind of the objective lmao

That is unfortunately what I would just call a capibility/doctorine gap at that point when it comes to SPAA. As obviously NATO just doesn’t have SPAA designed like that.

Reasoning why the BUKS were removed… but I digress.

Yeah, if you get within their 10km range and drop inside it, they instantly detect it, and also instantly detect if u drop something on them and shift focus to your target. Usually your team ends up marking them on the map when they fly close, so it’s easy to just launch outside the range at a decent altitude and speed and just dome them.

Groms don’t get that luxury of course and you gotta do a lot more to make sure they make it. And don’t even get me started when vehicles coem crawling out the depots and intercept bombs once you’ve cleared the SPAA on guard lmao

I’m just saying the Strike Eagles are menaces. Doesn’t matter if you try to focus them down, since most aircraft carries what it carries in smaller quantities.

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What I was describing was what happens when I drop them from outside 10km. If you drop them from up close, you need less since they have less time to react. But when you drop them from outside their range, they have all the time in the world to react. Also, distracting the 2s6 with munitions does not work with slow things like the GBU-39/53 until they get within point blank range because of how their targeting logic works. If there are 2 targets inside it’s range, with one being slow and the other being fast, it will always prioritize the faster one unless the slower one is very close. So if you want to distract it, you have to throw something like a HARM at it. Mavericks kinda work as well, but since those are also pretty slow, it is not reliable.

Mavericks blow. I’ve never seen such a failure of an AGM with clear line of sight and still miss, but hey at least you have 6.

And that is quite odd, I’ve never experienced that at all when dropping outside it’s range, I’ll do more runs in the F-15 to see.

A single F-15E can completely disable every single redfor large SAM site in under 15 minutes with complete impunity from over 80km away while still inside their own air defense bubble. He will have already dropped his glide bombs before your missile is even close to hitting. And then the F-15E gets to enjoy sitting relatively safe inside the slowly advancing ItO coverage bubble as it completely dunks on ground targets and shifts the tickets into an unwinnable position while red is still suppressing the SAMP/T sites.

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Was the last time you used your F-15 in NE more than about a week or so ago? If so, at that time the 2S6s were bugged and struggled a TON to intercept stuff. I had multiple times where I dropped the last GBU-53 I had on a random 2S6 that popped up, and it would fail to intercept it despite launching 3+ missiles at it. I could also launch a single HARM at the 2S6s and it would make it through nearly every time (but for some reason they would just miss half the time). Though that has been fixed for about a week or so.

Definetely not a week ago, it was very recent

Average NE game.

Yeah I’ve just been winning constantly with US while pulling off some crazy good games, the strike eagle is just in it’s own class for NE.

Btw here’s a video of the match that I screenshotted somewhere earlier in this thread for anyone that is interested.

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Even more reason to give us MMW guidance for NE…

I have been trying to queueing at 10.0 for Nuclear Escalation match for most of the past 4 hours. There were such matches at an earlier time of day, but for the current time, there are absolutely 0 matches. I requeued multiple times, restarted the game, even enabled “join already active battles”, but there are simply no battles to be found at this time.

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Frankly, battles are somewhat uncommon purely because the mode is incredibly poorly executed.

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What I’m more concerned about is bombers not sustaining damage on its wing film. It seems that even though I continuously dump rounds into the same part it doesn’t actually do damage to the most vulnerably part of the wings, the film itself. Damage to the wing film should very much be restored again, but instead of 3-5 rounds taking the wing off, it should be ~5 rounds to black the wing cover, but not damage the spar so the wings stay on. The wings on the tips should be easier to shoot off too because IRL the wingtips are not as reinforced as the roots, and the wings should definitely still have the ability to snap off. War thunder aim to be realistic, therefore this must be modeled.

Games below 13.0 are rare

Another high score to the collection

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I’ve played a hot amount of lower tier NE and it seems the U.S just dominates absolutely everything at every tier

USSR doesn’t have a lot of multirole aircraft, limited hardpoints, meanwhile U.S just has multirole everything and dominate.

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Intercept rate is still stupid, 1x 2S6 taking out 4x PW4s in 5 ish seconds is just stupid. It basically renders these sites un attackable. Next sortie, I used Spice-250s against the site instead, Intercepted 2x Spice-250s too, sheer luck the third one got through, it fired at it but missed.

Ive also noticed something weird about the S-300s.

They are either Hypsonic and able to travel 30+km in a few seconds, or thye can switch targets mid flight. I fired an AGM-88C and it was interecepted 2 seconds after firing it by a S-300, likewise I was killed by an S-300 after popping up behind a mountain within a few seconds.

I think they are just spamming off missiles and then guiding them onto targets afterwards, basically meaning the missiels are only a few km away

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Im glad I sat in the queue for 5 minutes for this…

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