They say necessity is the mother of invention and I have an issue with the game currently.So I am suggesting something that may be of use to all of us (or not which is why I’m putting on here)
Would it be a good thing if you could actually purchase any vehicle from the Nations line up and gain it without having to grind through a load of rubbish you don’t want?
Say you urgently need CAS at 6BR but your CAS is only 3BR because you don’t really like the air game and don’t play it?
Say you want SPAA but the one you want is behind some rubbish you will never use?
Is ARB spammed with non flyers who only want CAS for GRB ? I know I only play the Air game to get CAS for GRB. Are people like me good or bad for ARB?
Maybe if you have ground out enough vehicles you can then get to pick anything or maybe you have to be at that BR to stop people getting ahead of themselves (ODL top tier).Maybe if you have land units at 6.7 you can select any plane for CAS for purchase at 6-7 BR.
The vehicle does not have any premium abilities but it simply means you can use it sooner rather than later to fill gaps or just give yourself CAS at any level.
Maybe it could come fully modded or not.
Obviously a money spinner for Gaijin and a grind saver for everybody else. I would love a premium Skyraider right now at 6-7BR but I am miles off that tech tree wise and not every plane or vehicle can be a premium except I am suggesting it actually could be to a degree.
I am not one for encouraging Gaijin on spending but I am the on with the issue here.
What do you guys think? Would it help everybody level up?
Would this benefit the players?
Yes, without a doubt.
Like you I suck at air and only really try yo play it to get CAS.
Would Gaijin make money off of this?
Not as much as they do currently.
Technically you can buy your way through the tech tree, you just need free xp and a boat load of gold. If gaijin made it to where you could just buy the one vehicle you wanted, then they would make less money than they could make now.
Since Gaijin is a company run by its wallet, i doubt they would ever make a change like this.
Also, a side note, wouldnt being able to buy tech tree vehicles in this manner degrade the game over all as there wouldnt be much reason to grind through the trees?
Just copy the naval plane spawn system into ground forces which gives you ability to spawn random fighter or attacker/bomber with basic loadout from battles’ BR range if you don’t have any planes in your lineup.
Yeah on X box flying is kind of out but what if you don’t really like flying at all, what if GRB is really your thing.It no crime we all like what we like,some ARB are flight sim enthusiasts with full plane controls etc
I’m simply talking about a "Buy it now " option so Gaijin would literally make cash form the normal tree.So it has to be a winner for them surely? I mean don’t get me wrong this is a debate and meat to be, I’m just putting this out there.
I don’t think anybody would need or be able to afford buying a whole tree and in many cases not have a need to but the phenomenon of outgrowing your CAS must be an issue for many who have GRB as thier main concern.
Premium sales as far as I can see is not about this but about giving you RP to grind.
Gaijin is a company of the wallet and this is a new and additional selling opportunity and one of the few they seem to have missed.
Only if it wasn’t controlled.We all have to grind and we do indeed have premium but we also have many nations and in some cases many games, such as Navy competing for out time and cash.
I did raise jumping ahead and ODL caused by premium sales as a symptom of Gaijin not thinking stuff through.
Cash wise I can’t see a bad issue for Gaijin but I’m open to counter arguments obvoulsy. Like I said maybe only have the buy now option at your current BR or Tier
Maybe that could work but I bet Gaijin would like to make money if they can.It is meant to be combine arms though, They should be encouraging that but we all know how it works.Very little comes for free unless there is no other way.
I get the broader principle and that is why I asked on the forum for input.
I know also we already have premium but then we have those who will also never ever pay a penny.
This is customer lead, I am asking for this and in reality I don’t think It would give me any advantage other than having CAS that others have.You cant say that about premium can you? Must be better than the auction?
I don’t see how it impacts other players as much as a premium vehicles does. The whole flying issue in GRB is controversial.Its a free game and Gaijin will always try to make money anyway.
How many people use a low BR vehicle to get a plane in GRB purely so they can grind that plane and mod it or Just get the plane they want? Ever thought about that? Its annoying habit many of us hate but I spent all night last night doing just that. How many enter ARB just to grind and play the game? I do.Is it annoying for those who play the game? Having clowns like me on their team?
How much game play ruined by everybody having an agenda that is not about the game itself.We are trying to do battle pass or grind for a certain something.
it was really funny whacking PT 76s and Concept 3s in a BT 5 but it was only done to get a plane. Racing ahead to gain a CAP was probably not so much fun for those on my team but I’m trying to get that plane or get one modded so I have CAS at my level. Many of us have a reason for the toxic stuff we do in game.
If gaijin can make you spend $1000 to buy the vehicle you want(forcing you to buy everything under it), or just let you buy it for $50, which method do you think they will go with?
Technically you can do this assuming you have the free xp, gold, and the other vehicles below it researched if you are talking about just buying out the next tank you are researching.
I bet offered buy now on any vehicle at your current BR for 1000 GE people would lap it up.They pay more for less.Save them hours and 200000 SL.
All they would end with is the same vehicle everybody else has only quicker?
I’m talking more about having to cover GRB costs and Air costs where as a ARB only person has no land units to worry about. Navy are covered by other means.
. So I am saying what if your Land units are 6.7 but your planes are still back at 3.3 ? You also have three or more nations at 6.7 and the same issue.Maybe old veterens have a glut of gold and RP but many of us dont. We cant even get the SL : )
The whole “I’m not really a pilot” thing just keeps smashing GRB lovers in the face in so many ways.
People would lap it up especially 3.0 and higher as even premiums cost triple that.
If the tech tree stuff cost less, were easier to get, than the premiums then no one would buy the premiums.
Gaijin doesnt care about saving the players from anything. The more frustrated you get at grinding, the more likely you are to buy a premium which is what they want.
Alot of their money has to come from beginning players grinding to 4.0, realizing/getting bored with the work, then buying a high BR premium.
Also, i guess looking at it from a gameplay perspective its supposed to be viewed as the time you spend grinding through the tech tree teaches you how to play the vehicles. Which is supposed to make you “better” and be able to help your team more.
but thats kind of negated by the premiums…
I wish CAS (besides helis) was removed from GRB for this reason and many others.
ARB gets to play just air, ground needs a mode for the same.
Im not either. I can drop bombs, but im useless in a dog fight.
Yes that’s true.The premiums do offer other advantages though for grinding and RP.
They can also be vehicles that are not available to the tech tree.
No I meant it would save the players having to do it so they may spend.I am not sure they would want or even need to do it that often. I also cant do anything about somebody wealthy they can but an entire tech tree but I also can’t do anything about facing somebody in a full flight simulator on ARB
I think if premium was about gaps then there would be so many more premium vehicles avalible. I will concede Gaijin don’t think of everything and seem to have a poor understanding of the people who play.Look at the Western and Eastern Tiger pack.
Its a re-skin, I suggested that years ago, making copy past sexy to make money and fill gaps.I never believed they would ask so much and actually get it though.Maybe that would be the counter argument ,how much Gaijin will charge for my current suggestion : (
Yeah that’s good ,grinding is part of the learning curve and I know some even enjoy that aspect.
Yeah I am for a CAS free game of GRB even if it was an option.
I am the guy who lawn darts after a kill and everybody thinks I did it on purpose : )
Eddie of the jungle !
Maybe a compromise could be the ability to “premiumify” Tech tree vehicles?
Like talismans exist but they don’t help with SL costs.
And while you could just buy a premium vehicle…
1 Premiums tend to be either captured/lend-lease vehicles or weird prototypes
2. Even if they’re not, TT vehicles are sometimes much more interesting and fun.
I’d actually be super down for paying to premiumify my F4U-4 or F3H-2 for instance.
in the same spirit I would like to purchase any vehicle in the TT as a premium. Have it match the price of same tier premiums we have now. Maybe a discount if you already have it researched/purchased as a normal TT vehicle. Maybe like 40% off or smth.
While Gaijin is in the necessity of making money to maintain servers and develop expensive additions, this ain’t the way to do it.
I have a friend that grinds aircraft exclusively in ground RB, he’ll play fighters as anti-CAS for plane grinding.
There are so many more fun ways IMO to enjoy this aspect of the game as-is.
Especially since CAS can be a spawn point trap sometimes; I’d rather people learn the lesson of incorrectly spawning CAS below BR 5 than at BR 7.
I think charging for something players are getting for free now is great for Gaijin.
War Thunder is defined as a free to play game that offers short cut and advantages for cash.
Sure this is valid input ,and I know CAS hunting can be a good place for a poor fighter pilot sure, but flyers will be good at flying and those for who it is secondary it’s something of a chore.We all know that you get higher RP in the flying game.
Many great flyers come to GRB to “rope a dope” not enhance the GRB game.
Dedicated CAS can be easy pickings for fast nimble fighters.
I get where you are coming from mine is not a fully formed idea hence why its not a formal suggestion.
Let me bore you with a brief rundown of my personal issue.
USA 6.7 GRB. Unlocked the land stuff with premium way back.
Went down the P47 /P51 route for CAS but found the CAS track switches,
Skyraider is on the carrier based line not my already determined CAS line.
I never had much interest in the OSU or any naval based stuff.I don’t play navy(yet).
It took what seemed like hundreds of games in a premium plane with no premium account just to unlock the P61 C1 which I will never use .I know have to grind the A26 twice just to get to the basic Skyraider.
Italy has no CAS from what I can see.Germany has the Do335 at 4.3 and I am at 6.7,taking forever to get the 262 A1 .Its all ground to a halt.
Gaijin could either create a hundred premiums or premiumise everything as Runa D suggested.
You know I am a big NO CAS GRB fan but here I am doing the combined arms thing like a good boy and now look where I am. Sure I should have learned fly sooner but I didn’t : )
Yeah I am a little annoyed that being a tank lover and GRB player is about flying so much.
Gaijin will always strive to make cash ,we need to make sure that when they do we get helped out as well. Maybe if Gaijin employed somebody who can see it both ways they may have a fanbase that doesn’t hate them.
you mean the game that likely generates the vast majority of their income, and which people continue to pour thousands of $$'s into every day despite apparently all hating it so much??