AA spam is causing more Spawn camping

Game Discussion Realistic Battle
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Its funny how Gaijin tries to solve a problem but creates another.

How am i to fight on my own if my whole team is in the spawn in an AA after first death?

What gaijin should have done is make air patrol more accesible and not spaming the game with AA.

In a match i counted 10 AA vehicles in my team.

Capture point A B and C where lost. And not even possible to retake.

I left the game with still 3 tanks and enough spawn points knowing that we are gonna be spawn camped.

We need a cap on how many aa can be in a match in a given time and increase aa spawn points.

Think about it, do you win with 10 aa vehicle team members?

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You’d be worse off if those players just leave after one death, which is what the free vehicles prevent.

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If war thunder players knew that the best AA is a fighter jet we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Im not talking about the free “dice” tanks or aa’s.

People are so scaree of CAS now a days they enter AA after 1 death.

Example.

One Iris T is 3 aa systems in spawn.

Lets say 5 team members die after one death and they see enemy has a b and c they think let me spawn aa system to get easy kill.

But what they are really doing is losing the match.

5 x3 = 15 AA vehicles in the spawn.

It contributes nothing to capture a b and c.

We need a cap on how many aa systems can spawn in a given time.

Lets say max 3.

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Except it isn’t. Everyone thinks they’re Tom Cruise in CAS, and then they die and lose their spawn points.

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Nope, because I see a lot of people only spawning in aa after they burn through their other lineup. Also, there are some capable anti air vehicles to use against tank, u can easily use an lav-ad to shred bmp’s and 2s28’s

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Im a cas player myself its easy’r to get kills now with all this aa spam.

Do you really think those big AA vehicles in spawn are that hard to kill?

They are easy to find and strafe, cluster bomb, atgm etc.

The problem is that max 3 AA systems at one given time is enough or your team will get spawn camped.

U do not win games with AA systems.

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You do better off than with no players on the team. And like I said, you can use aa vehicles to kill tanks, not everyone just stays in spawn. And I’ve also had less of a problem with cas since the free vehicles, so I’m all for it. As for losing games, ur gonna lose every game against the bmpt anyway

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you get 1 tank and 1 spaa

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Perhaps there are a lot of players that have no interest in jumping into a fighter.

It is called Ground Realistic after all…

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You have less chance of capturing A, B and C while flying your CAS than your team-mates do in the spaa. Just sayin…

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Killing tanks in CAS makes way to capture.

Staying the whole match in an AA bus doesn’t.

Im not saying AA is a bad thing, i’m saying there is to much of it at the same time.

Example:

Enemy has 2 planes in the air.
My team has 10 AA systems to counter 2 planes.

I have 5 tanks less to capture to help capture.

Enemy has 5 tanks more on the field.

Game is lost because of to much AA on my team.

Enemy roles up to the spawn.

We cannot change AA vehicles to tanks you will be shot as soon as you spawn.

Game is lost midway because there is no balance.

One team has to much AA vehicles spawned and the game is over.

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CAS is part of ground warfare, this point never made any sense and just shows how you don’t know much about it

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LOL… it’s not even close to how combined forces really work.

And you entirely missed my point. A LOT of players in GRB have no interest in jumping into a fighter plane. ZERO. making them cheaper will not do what you hope it to do.

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This is not correct.

Your plane might be able to kill a ground unit but it can’t land on the point and capture it. You must have heard the saying “can’t win a battle without boots on the ground”, right?

As for spaa - plenty of them - especially at the 7.0-9.0 range - would have confidence to cap. Any spaa that has 37mm+ autocannons will give it a go as they can defend themselves. Even the Leopard and the m42 head to capture points early in the battle.

You can blame Gaijin for players spamming the spaa. They gave them APHE/APDS and now they go tank-hunting with autocannons that easily disable even heavy tanks.

Take away those tank-killing rounds and …

  1. There will be fewer spaa per team
  2. Those that do enter the battle will concentrate more on their core function - shooting down CAS
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Ok? that’s their problem

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No - it’s the game’s problem. Hence complaints (THIS THREAD) about - oh my - too many spaa.

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I think that the change of giving players vehicles that they dont have unlocked/didnt bring into the lineup is a good change [theyre stock which sucks, they should give it parts upgrade so you can atleast repair] because they can contribute to the team somehow [spawning in spaa in better than leaving] BUT, low lever premium players with lack of knowledge how to operate the SPAA and this game which offers little to no useful tutorials is bad. My experience is that every third time that i spawn into jet so i could do CAS/anti CAS, my level 15 teammate shoots me down and its pretty frustrating. What would be a logical change for me? Do some useful tutorials, change the vehicles to non stock so you can repair, maybe give access to APFSDS to some top tier ones since HEAT is pretty much useless there, and make premiums have some sort of level lock, you should not be able to buy top tier premium when you are level 10, so maybe do it that you must be atleast level 30 or something
And to answer to the main question in this thread - the 10 SPAAs that you are talking about - you know that if they werent in any SPAA they would likely just quit, so that would be even worse

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This free AA feature was developed from a similar feature in Naval that gives people a free Fighter and free Bomber to use.

Imagine if we saw everyone given those same free Fighters and free CAS in a similar manner to how Naval has been operating for years.

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What did you say? @ QTip_44 QTip_44

You can see me landing a harier in this video to capture.

Harier capping

Can you plz eat your words now?

I capture alot with Heli’s too, u can see my other vids:

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How do you expect me to see a 16min long video without windowed subway surfer in the bottom. Unbelievable.

Good videos