Back in the day when it was released, yes, 100%, rn its facing planes that go way faster, has x2 or x4 the amount of missiles just 0.3 above, imo it should be 10.3, its a plane that can go fast but turns worse than the Yak-38, missiles are good, but can be easily flared
Note: I want everything to go up to at least 15.0 if not more to decompress everything
I came from no-flare land of Sweden, so, that’s probably a part of my fueled hatred for the F-5’s
No I’m not facing a5c again in a 9.3. Another compression thread. Next.
its a flying brick, you can just avoid it and it wont be able to fire that rear aspect missile at you
besides in a full downtier there can be only what, 3/5 planes from full uptier?
I wonder what you think about F4C that can fight 9.0 then
It is flareless and has AIM-9E, which can be evaded with the slightest manoeuvre.
A-5C when it was 10.0, two magic 1 always were fired by ‘push to free kill button’ as long as Magic 1 is unavoidable by manoeuvre.
If A-5C were armed with R-3S equivalent, I won’t bother to see it back in 10.0
just put it at 10.3, its not free kills even against 9.3 because its literally a brick and anyone with 2 braincells can just avoid getting locked
jak38 has r60s at 9.3 which are also unavoidable by manoeuvre so what?
Bruh, the R-60 is one of the worst missiles in the game. It can pull off the rail quickly, but it can’t even reach 2 km
Strange, I had no problem to take my lock with my AIM-9G when I flew with Harriers.
Or lock R.550 with Mirage 5F stock against the enemy.
I don’t think ‘Harrier before FM buff’ turned better than MiG-19 :|
Blaming the enemy’s skill for defending your missile and plane is a diabolical take.
Just climb up and dive. You almost always can grab at least one free kill.
(if it gets silly buff down to 10.3)
IT DOESN’T HAVE MAGIC’S MAGICAL RANGE. :/
if climb up and dive = free kill then that “magical range” doesnt matter
how is 8.3 fighting against a brick with r60 fair but 9.3 against a brick with matra completely unacceptable?
yeah it does matter
No, it matters.
You can fire it at a longer distance, and it will give you a higher chance of getting undetected.
That is why I prefer AIM-9D/G to AIM-9J/P or R-60.
Have you ever flown with Yak-38 for a single time?
R-60 has 800 m-ish range, and you need to be completely exposed with that subsonic brick.
Magic 1 has infinitely better range than R-60, and your A-5C is a supersonic jet.
Well, it might barely be supersonic, though. At least you fly faster than true-subsonic like Bucc or Harriers.
It is quite bizarre that you blamed other opponents as ‘you never flew with A-5C’, but you brought the Yak-38 into a problem. Sounds quite like double standards. Isn’t it?
What you need to get with A-5C is not getting buffed down for ravaging flareless subsonic planes freely.
What you need to get is, send underrated bastards(F8U or J-7D as an example) up with decompression, which will make A-5C less suffer.
r60 actually often hits at about 1.8km range in a chase and against early jets like we find in 8.3 you can even fire at 2.5km
and with your tactic of climb and dive that range is for sure higher than “800m”
r60 launched when flying 1000km/h can hit a plane flying 900km/h (typical speed for mig15s etc) from 2300 meters
and when you both fly 900 then r60 can hit from 2200
weird how suddenly you consider that yak38 is a flying brick
just like a5c…
TBH all the Q5/A5 deserve a lower battle rating except the early variant at 9.3
You are the one who brought Yak-38 into ‘this’ warzone.
I never told that Yak-38 were manoeuvrable.
No offence, but I really think you don’t know what you’re even talking about. :/
I mean that you taken into account that yak38 is a flying brick when you considered its missiles at its br
same thing applies to a5c but you somehow consider it free kills suddenly
You are completely ignoring the speed differnce between the fuselage.
Supersonic brick is better than subsonic brick.
And R-60 is worse than Magic 1.
Also, Yak-38 don’t have coutnermeasures
So, bringing Yak-38 for defending A-5C is a bad idea.
you’re right it should be at 11.0 *just like the F5E.
the difference in speed isnt that huge, a5c will almost all the time top out at around 1200 (at maps with higher alt) only rarely hitting mach 1.0 and guess what, yak38 will also stay around 1000-1200
yes, r60 is worse in distance than magic 1 but its much better at short distance
and you are fogetting yak38 is at 9.3 so it can face 8.3’s
a5c isnt that much different from yak38 and yet its 10.7
There are alot of flying bricks at 10.7 that wont even make it to the base, because of A5Cs.
As I told you earlier, A-5C nowadays has some problems.
JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER 10.7BR ATTACKERS.
I don’t understand why the hell you just want special treatment on your A-5C ffs.
I would’ve agreed if you were discussing buffing Q-5A/L instead, but not A-5C.
A-5C need decompression, not undertiering it instead.