as I said, just because there are other planes overtiered doesnt mean A5C isnt.
I think A5C should go down to atleast 10.3 in ARB and 9.7 in GRB because Q5L has no AAMs but has GBUs where A5C is reverse
Bro has such a fragile ego, oml
It does, it happens all the time to me with Russian planes that use the R-60, doesn’t matter if the launch was supersonic or barely airspeed worthy, it bleed off as soon as it’s motor dies.
Think about the AIM-120, its big, heavy, and fast, so it carries its speed over a long distance.
You realize the Matra is indeed the best line of IR missiles in the game, anyone will tell you that, and indeed the A5C isn’t caught by a lot of planes in the BR range it fights, only excluding uptiers.
But that’s the issue, the will almost never have the speed when they turn to chase, and even if they do have the acceleration and do catch up, unless you are the last person on the team, they will likely leave you alone or go fight someone with a higher priority.
Worst of them on the list is easily the mirage’s delta design, it will turn fast, but you lose all your speed.
I mean, all you have to do is not turn as fast as you can, if you have some alt you can always be at mach, and except the F-5s, every plane is capable of Mach 2 on that list, so its not really a good point
It also one of the most under-BR’d planes in the game, collectively decided by the community.
Back in the day when it was released, yes, 100%, rn its facing planes that go way faster, has x2 or x4 the amount of missiles just 0.3 above, imo it should be 10.3, its a plane that can go fast but turns worse than the Yak-38, missiles are good, but can be easily flared
Note: I want everything to go up to at least 15.0 if not more to decompress everything
I came from no-flare land of Sweden, so, that’s probably a part of my fueled hatred for the F-5’s
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No I’m not facing a5c again in a 9.3. Another compression thread. Next.
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its a flying brick, you can just avoid it and it wont be able to fire that rear aspect missile at you
besides in a full downtier there can be only what, 3/5 planes from full uptier?
I wonder what you think about F4C that can fight 9.0 then
It is flareless and has AIM-9E, which can be evaded with the slightest manoeuvre.
A-5C when it was 10.0, two magic 1 always were fired by ‘push to free kill button’ as long as Magic 1 is unavoidable by manoeuvre.
If A-5C were armed with R-3S equivalent, I won’t bother to see it back in 10.0
just put it at 10.3, its not free kills even against 9.3 because its literally a brick and anyone with 2 braincells can just avoid getting locked
jak38 has r60s at 9.3 which are also unavoidable by manoeuvre so what?
Bruh, the R-60 is one of the worst missiles in the game. It can pull off the rail quickly, but it can’t even reach 2 km
Strange, I had no problem to take my lock with my AIM-9G when I flew with Harriers.
Or lock R.550 with Mirage 5F stock against the enemy.
I don’t think ‘Harrier before FM buff’ turned better than MiG-19 :|
Blaming the enemy’s skill for defending your missile and plane is a diabolical take.
Just climb up and dive. You almost always can grab at least one free kill.
(if it gets silly buff down to 10.3)
IT DOESN’T HAVE MAGIC’S MAGICAL RANGE. :/
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if climb up and dive = free kill then that “magical range” doesnt matter
how is 8.3 fighting against a brick with r60 fair but 9.3 against a brick with matra completely unacceptable?
yeah it does matter
No, it matters.
You can fire it at a longer distance, and it will give you a higher chance of getting undetected.
That is why I prefer AIM-9D/G to AIM-9J/P or R-60.
Have you ever flown with Yak-38 for a single time?
R-60 has 800 m-ish range, and you need to be completely exposed with that subsonic brick.
Magic 1 has infinitely better range than R-60, and your A-5C is a supersonic jet.
Well, it might barely be supersonic, though. At least you fly faster than true-subsonic like Bucc or Harriers.
It is quite bizarre that you blamed other opponents as ‘you never flew with A-5C’, but you brought the Yak-38 into a problem. Sounds quite like double standards. Isn’t it?
What you need to get with A-5C is not getting buffed down for ravaging flareless subsonic planes freely.
What you need to get is, send underrated bastards(F8U or J-7D as an example) up with decompression, which will make A-5C less suffer.
r60 actually often hits at about 1.8km range in a chase and against early jets like we find in 8.3 you can even fire at 2.5km
and with your tactic of climb and dive that range is for sure higher than “800m”
r60 launched when flying 1000km/h can hit a plane flying 900km/h (typical speed for mig15s etc) from 2300 meters
and when you both fly 900 then r60 can hit from 2200
weird how suddenly you consider that yak38 is a flying brick
just like a5c…