SLOW - basically subsonic, barely goes mach 1.0 when practically empty and only in a straight line, you wont even get to bomb a base because everything will be faster
doesnt turn AT ALL, you cant dogfight anything
has only 18 countermeasures with 2 per pop
has probably the worst guns it could have, these 23mms are already hard to use when you have a fast and good turning plane, here they are just for display because you wont use them except maybe for ground targets (if you survive while flying to them)
no anti ground armament except some useless unguided rockets and dumb bombs, only 2 rear aspect AAMs that are flare hungry, good luck getting behind someone with this brick without them noticing and flaring it
this plane is basically a printer for 0 score games both in ARB and GRB
I think it should be lowered by 1 step in both ARB and GRB
I would copy paste a reply from the thread of this you made the other day, but that’s too difficult
A-5C will do fine at 10.7, but could be 10.3 without much of an issue tbh. It does get overshadowed a lot because of constant uptiers, but that’s not a A-5C exclusive problem.
The A-5C in the right hands is a menace. It’s essentially slightly heavier mig19 with flares and 2 magics. It will outrate most of everything it faces, and has a very strong acceleration.
The most common skill issues with it are bringing too much fuel, and dropping the throttle too much.
This jet sips fuel, and there’s not much point in going full afterburner near transonic speeds since it wont get you much faster. 15 to 18min of fuel will be plenty.
The engines take a LOOOONG time to spool up, if you cut your throttle to 0% it will take a long time to build the full thrust again. I don’t recommend cutting the throttle below 80%. If you need to control your speed just cut afterburner and deploy airbrakes.
Since it is essentially a mig19, you will compress a lot near mach, and if you have too much fuel on you, the jet will be very stiff at high speeds with low nose authority.
You should be around 10min of fuel or less before committing to the harder dogfights, and when you do, you should be patient and lag pursuit for a bit before committing to the kill. High deflection shoots at high speeds is not its strong suit, unlike the F-5s for example, but you have the best energy retention around, except when fighting J-7Es in a uptier or actual mig-19s in a downtier.
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I never outrated anything, I always take about 18 minutes of fuel at start because it actually doesnt burn fuel that fast (never ran out)
energy retention doesnt matter if you never can get your nose on the target
With the A5C? Even F-5s are hopeless against it.
One of the main advantages of the A5C is that you can just keep doing vertical maneuvers at high speed and wait for your opponents to spend their energy and then you drop your speed a bit to turn faster and kill them 1 by 1.
Even if they get their nose onto you, by having plenty of speed is easy to just deflect away from their noses.
what you describe happens in 1 out of 10000 games, before you ever get a chance to get vertical and try to do this trailer worthy moment you will just get shot by some radar missile that wont get fooled by your chaff
What I describe happens very often for me. And those radar missiles are only present in full uptiers. If there are F-4Es or Mig23s around don’t commit to vertical dogfights.
The issue you are describing only applies when you are like 1v3 and at least one of them with radar missiles keeps extending away to try to third party you with their missiles. You can’t really expect to kill them all often, unless they completely fumble, which is not that uncommon either.
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I thought everyone explained well why A-5C isn’t too high in the last thread, which is now closed.
Well, I hope you remain chill and no insults this time, sir.
By the way, as long as A-5C don’t carry any of the guided munitions, if I were you, I wouldn’t bring them into GRB.
as you said, A5C faces constant uptiers so you will see these radar missiles often
A5C is just outmatched in dogfights and some lucky situations wont change that
It’s not outmatched in dogfights, it can handle itself in uptiers just fine. The biggest issue is the very limited number of countermeasures which means you should not be aggressive early game or you run out quickly.
Your take is biased and shortsighted, the A5C is one of the best 10.7s and you are here asking for it to be lowered in BR. There are a bunch of 10.7 that would deserve lower BRs, the A5C is certainly not one of them.
The issue that affects all is BR compression, it’s not an A5C exclusive problem.
That is crazy, dude. That thing can keep pace with Phantoms, and Phantoms aren’t slow.
And comparing the Yak-38 to the A-5C?
Lol. Lmfao even.
Also, extra crazy how you copy+pasted your thread to re-open it after it got closed.
because thats what the mod said, it was in wrong section.
IT CANNOT keep up with phantoms, your lie was already disproven.
extra crazy how you copy+pasted your entirely false post.
It can keep up with Phantoms, though. It’s not some regular Mig-19, after all.
Also, sure I copy-pasted my factual post for a disinformation thread. Why should I type up something new and original when my original reply was sufficient?
you are the one spreading disinformation
no, it cannot keep up with phantoms. Never.
go troll somewhere else
5K matches in and you still don’t yet understand that stat cards aren’t always honest. You’ll get there one day.
Phantoms go 1350+/mach 1.1+ kph on the deck, the A-5C sits at mach 1.00
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but he has 6 games in A5C, he knows better.
anyways I wont let him provoke me again, going to permamute him
Yes, 6 games where in 2 of those games I chased down Phantoms with little hassle.
But you go ahead believing the A-5C can’t catch them. Your beliefs still don’t change the fact that it’s acceptable at 10.7 as things are currently.
When we get more decompression for air, then we can have this conversation again.
It might be acceptable as a 10.7 but its not as fast as a phantom
difference between their speed is like a jet and a prop
