A survey of the playerbase

What other opinions would there be to survey? If you can’t survey people who play the nations because they would be automatically biased to favor it, and you can’t survey people who don’t play the nations because they don’t have the experience of playing the nation - then what’s the point of surveys at all?

That’s obviously ridiculous, though, and seeing the community views on certain complaints of minor nations is a good topic to gather data on. I mean the whole debate around them is that not many people play the nation enough to have the large advocating power of the major nations, so getting the opinions of both people who play the nation and those who don’t should help to somewhat supplement the data.

I didn’t say you can’t survey either group. I said surveying either group WHILE TELLING THEM what you think they believe before they can tell you what they actually believe, is stupid.

Go ahead and survey both Britain mains and non-Britain mains. By all means. But both of them should simply be asked “How effective are AP shells?” [very ineffective -1 2 3 4 5 - very effective] etc.

If you are correct that they all think AP shells are horrendous, then you’ll get an average answer of like 1.3 out of 5. Done. Easy as hell to NOT bias and mess it up.

Maybe the Britain mains will say 1.0/5 and the non Britain mains will say 2.1/5, and that would be interesting. As long as you didn’t TELL THEM THE ANSWER you wanted, and let them actually answer.

Anyway I gotta go do some other stuff. I tried my best, but if ya’ll wanna run useless surveys, I can’t stop you.

Maybe ethos will work where logos did not: I’ve literally been a professor of research methods, stats, and math courses before. If you want to university and took classes on how to make surveys, I’d be the one lecturing you.

Do. not. put. bias. into. surveys. Ever.

But anyway, peace.

He didn’t tell them what to think. He listed common complaints from minor nations and asked if people agreed with them.

Honestly I’m not sure how effective that would be purely due to the issues you mentioned previously of not many people playing the nations. Asking a yes/no question on whether a person believes something is a problem will result in a much more accurate answer from a person who doesn’t play a nation than a scale of 1-5 or 1-10.

This is more of a subjective thing though, it’s just that I personally know I wouldn’t be able to say how ineffective British AP shells are on a numeric scale but I could tell you that I think generally they don’t perform well. I think if you were going for a numeric answer (to tell you how much British AP sucks rather than "the community agrees British AP sucks) you would need to look at in game armor values rather than community opinion.

Essentially what I mean is, from what I gather, the purpose of the survey is to see if there is wider agreement in the community on common minor nation complaints (so “do the devs or wider community need to pay attention to this more?”) rather than figuring out (in numerical/exact values, ex. giving British AP 20% more spall or something) how much minor nations need to be buffed.

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This isn’t your problem. Let [汉城战车道 장태완] do his thing.

He’s asking if the thing actually represents the community properly or if they let it effect their decision when deciding which trees to grind. They can reply “No” if they don’t perceive the solid shot as a problem like the community generally does.

You’re conflating your idea of what an answer is to a question you’re not understanding with an answer you think is irrelevant or can’t imagine existing.

This isn’t a good metaphor. It would be more like “Do you agree that Tremors is Kevin Bacon’s most entertaining movie like many others? If so, why?” This is somewhat framed in the positive, but you’ll still get a useful answer. Useful just means any answer. It’s data regardless of whether or not you think it’s valid for finding an answer you think he should be trying to get.

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