A simple SL-based spawn cost system to reduce One Death Leavers and CAS spam

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One Death Leavers (ODLs) have become a huge problem in Ground RB, especially at higher tiers. Players often bring just one vehicle, die quickly, and leave, which ruins matches for everyone else. Reducing repair costs hasn’t fixed this because the real issue isn’t cost — it’s the lack of incentive to stay after dying once.

the idea should be the same as SIM in air battles system

My idea is simple: your first spawn costs SL equal to the current repair cost, no change there. But if you want to spawn the same vehicle again, it costs 30% more SL. Premium vehicles require a backup to spawn again, so you can’t just reuse them freely. For aircraft, especially CAS, spawning a second time should cost about 75% more SL to reduce spam.

This system makes spawns meaningful. If you’ve already spent SL to spawn, quitting after one death feels like losing something, not just walking away for free. That mental shift encourages players to stay in the match and use their vehicles more thoughtfully. It also encourages bringing full lineups rather than relying on one or two vehicles.

Many players on War Thunder forums agree that repair costs aren’t the real reason for quitting. They quit because once they die, there’s no real reason to keep playing. This solution directly targets that problem by making each spawn an investment that players want to get value from.

Optionally, there could be small SL bonuses for using multiple vehicles or staying until the end of the match to encourage good behavior without forcing it.

Overall, this idea is fair, easy to understand, and could reduce ODLs and CAS spam, making matches longer and more balanced. It’s a change that puts skin in the game, so quitting early becomes a costly choice, not a no-consequence decision.

please dont make a lot of comments and all that just say your opinon or just like the post

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this is a horrid idea, you just nerf the economy this way
how about you encourage players to spawn more?

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i dont know i just saw SL system as an idea not an implment

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i just saw this as a lillte idea to stop ODL

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ODL doesn’t need to be stopped. Learn to live with it. Stop being selfish.

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im not saying this for myself i just think it makes the gameplay harsh if everbody leaves after 1 death

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It absolutely does need to be stopped.

Its a team game, person leaving after one death means his team now plays with one less player. That IS objectively selfish, putting one player above rest of the team.

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lol, you people

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The mechanic that discourages me from ASB

Yep No second spawns anymore.

Punishes spawning

Losing the chance to lose 30% more spawn cost?

As long as they stay low as for now.

Yes and With your mechanic, they are punished to keep playing.

I never see a spam by second spawning the same craft. For 8.0-11.0 I don’t even see much people flying.

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Literally what? You gonna punish players that bought top tier premium vehicle, doesn’t have a lineup and want to grind freely? Like you should encourage them more to not leave but you want a spawn costs to exist? Wtf really xd.

Better option is get rid of back ups what so ever or add ability to spawn one-vehicle lineups 3 times just like M-51 can

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Yeah, let’s implement a system from a game mode so dead, that you barely see 15 people on at a time. That makes perfect sense.

Here’s the thing. I understand ODLers because we all know what happens when you die: CAS spam. The second you spawn in another tank, now you’ve been hit by Kh-38s, Hammers, and AGMs hurled from 15+ kilometres away, with nothing to protect you. I bring in full line ups, but I also understand that there is honestly no reason to keep playing when I know the end result: CAS spam.

Also, guess what, premium players are always going to play. Forcing them to pay a stupid amount of SL just to play the game with limited spawns is stupid. Air Sim makes sense since you can theoretically play for three hours with unlimited respawns. Ground RB, you get 25 minutes. Plus with your system, we have to pay to use backups? So not only do I need Universal Backups, I need to pay 130% to use it. This would be fine if the match lasted three or six hours, with unlimited respawns. Unfortunately it doesn’t, so.

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good idea, although it should only work if that vehicle is the only one in your lineup

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Spawning now is free and i still ODL if i feel like it.

It’s wild to think i would ODL less if it would cost SL.

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No, the SL based spawn system of air sim is part of what makes it unaccessible. The Korean Jet brackets are largely dead thanks to it. No thanks.

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Quitting sounds better 💁🏻‍♀️

They need to fix lot of crap if they want me to spawn a second time.

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ODL is ignorance, no where close to selfishness.
Selfish would be spawning as many times as possible and hogging good positions while intentionally carrying because you get more rewards the longer you’re in the match.

I do get what you were trying to say though.

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I am a player of One Death Leavers (ODLs) simply because it is impossible to play in toptier without a full squad

You are putting the problem on ODL players, but you should be addressing the huge amount of toptier premium vehicles and squadrons, or completely incompetent players playing in a tier where they should at least have a basic level of skill

We don’t have a matchmaking system in WT, so people with a 3.0 KD will be matched with players with a 0.5 KD, and we take this more seriously when the average KD in War Thunder is 0.75

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Nooooo, think of the queue time! Another three seconds of waiting? That shouldn’t be allowed!

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30% more sl cost for spawning again?
I would feel stupid if i didnt one death leave in that Case

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Ive seen a lot of replies to this and to the people saying odl isnt selfish. I only have this to say " a team-based, cross-platform, free-to-play MMO military game where players engage in combined-arms battles across air, land, and sea." Team based i.e. when you odl it is selfish regardless because you abandon the team if you dont have backuos or a proper line up, you really shouldnt play the br bracket.
Counter argument to this point “top tier premiums” use backups, or use vehichles in your line up that can also do damage. Dont blame the good players if they get mad at odl because it only shows that odl dont play the game as intended, i.e. TEAM BASED massive multiplayer platform.