Oh my god there’s no counterplay to it?
You mean like how there is no counterplay to CAS or helis for the majority of tanks too?
Oh my how dreadful, guess it doesn’t matter though and the only thing that matters is that an AA is effective at doing the only role it can do because it is limited to engaging aircraft so must be dumpstered and nerfed.
Just spawn a tank, there’s your counter. If the answer that the CAS/helispammers use when you get bombed from orbit is “just spawn a plane” then they can just spawn a tank.
The utter hypocrisy from CAS/helispammers is asinine.
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Don’t forget about teamplay!
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Which conveniently sits t 11.0 a FULL BR higher, in an ultra thin armored truck.
Type 93 at 9.3 is better but hasn’t nearly got an as capable missile as the STRELA, also for some reason STRELA has no problems locking onto CAS which is actively deploying flares, any other SAM is basically out of the game at that point.
It almost completely overshadows all SPAAG/SAM vehicles within it’s bracket:
USA:
LAV AD
- 8 ready to fire;
- Gatling gun to shoo away light tanks;
- can equip Hydra for more oomph but sacrifices a FIM-92 launcher for that
- FIM-92 E/K variants, inferior in every way but range on the K
CHAPARAL
- 4 ready to fire;
- Better G then FIM-92;
- exposed crew;
- upgraded missile adds nothing but smokeless motor;
- tall vehicle;
XM975
- RADAR;
- 8km range 8 kg of HE filler;
Can use SAM to shoot at GF;
- needs to keep tracking the target;
- reload animation starts after 2nd missile destroyed;
- M109 chassis mobility;
Germany:
Wiesel Ozelot
- small !!!
- Mobility;
+4 ready to fire with reload;
- No secondary armaments;
- Inferior FIM-92;
Gepard 1A2
- guns;
- 4 ready to fire;
- RADAR;
- inferior FIM-92;
Marder Roland
- RADAR;
- mobility;
- 8 km range 8kg HE filler;
- can use SAM to shoot at GF;
- Track the target;
- Reload animation after second shot;
Sadly no experience with Mistral SATCP, used by FRA and ITA;
Japan:
Type 93
- small size;
- 8 ready to fire;
- better sam then FIM-92;
- no armor;
- no secondary;
- wheeled chassis;
Type 81(c)
- better missile;
- 4 ready to fire, with reload;
- huge, no armor;
- BR 11.0
Sweden
Lvbrv 701
- small;
- Second missile can be used against GF;
- Slow, unarmored;
- limited traverse;
- needs to track the target;
- single fire SAM;
ASRAD-R
- small;
- 4 ready to fire, plus reload;
- both SAM’s can be used against GF;
- RADAR;
- Tall;
- needs to track the target;
- slow traverse;
Israel
Machbet
- 20mm Gatling;
- Inferior FIM-92;
- no reload;
Chaparal
- 4 ready to fire;
- better upgraded Missile;
- Better G then FIM-92;
- exposed crew;
- tall vehicle;
- higher BR then USA variant;
compared to the STRELA:
- 20 G missile;
- 4 ready to fire with reload;
- low silhouette;
- insanely fast lock on time;
- can fire in very quick succession;
- less susceptible to track flares;
- short frontal aspect lock range of 3.2 km, but I’ve seen it engage targets much further away then that;
- like all Fire and Forget it can’t target GF;
the only time i can get kills when Strela is present:
- He is reloading;
- Observing correct sector with either radar or laser guided, who can fire at once;
- He is out of range, also radar and laser guided;
- CAS deems him the bigger threat and takes him out first ;P
I’m a serial Spader, but when i see there is 1 or more Strela’s up, i spawn something else.
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You’re an Arcade player you cant have an opinion on SPAA
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If it were a perfect world where every team got a strela, then maybe I’d agree with you, but my main problem is that the Strela is actively making the CAS situation worse for whichever team doesn’t have it (especially for players using minor nations).
It just leads to a massive imbalance where there are 3-4 SU-25s that control the entire enemy team. Traditional wisdom would say “spawn a plane”, but the strela negates that option. “Then spawn an SPAA”, good luck winning a game when half your team has to spawn in SPAAs in order to kill 3-4 SU25s.
As someone who doesn’t spam CAS, and who loads their only viable helicopter with 8 ty-90s only, I firmly believe that the Strela is making CAS worse for anyone who’s not on it’s team.
Maybe a garbage take, but I’m tired of not being able to engage Su-25s and Ka50s because a strela exists.
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Russian AA is that stong, that I lost all hope to put my Tornado, F-4, Mig-23BN or any other strike capable jet to any good use. The 10.0 + BR br bracket is one huge no fly zone for Nato aircraft. Strela locks and kills my Tornado even at height, flares somehow won’t work…as if Strela has a super ECCM. Its like the Pantsir…lol deathclick to every Nato plane.
The only air unit which works are the Tiger UHT, thx to its F&F ATGMs you might have a chance. Another one are the small Bo-105’s at a lower BR, cause Strela can’t lock it up too well. Mi-24P in contrast is killed by Strela almost as you spawn, too big, to much heat signature…its so hopeless. Except the Bo-105 9.3 ±1 and Tiger UHT German CAS is dead. Any jet is so d**** useless. Why do they cost 800 spawn points, when you can’t do anything but beeing lolkilled.
Why are Tornados, Mig-23BN, F-4’s etc even ingame? You just can’t use them, except for some edge cases. Dunno how its with other nations. Beside F-16’s with Mavericks or F&F bombs I just don’t see any successful sorties.
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ROFL, Who died and made you the judge of me?
You have a problem with my points and or comparison?
Please elaborate or else keep your condescension to yourself.
Huh, are you sure you thunderskilled the correct guy? he has barely 300 matches in GRB and his stats are already better than a lot of players with 10000/20000 matches, most tanks he played has good KDR, unlike those who played 100,000 matches and still barely maintain a 1.0 KDR on their most played vehicles, the comparison is like a 48-year-old still working a minimum wage job, compare to a 26-year-old who already has his life figured out and become a millionaire bro lmao let see you do Kugelblitz >4.0 KDR
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Yeah you’re playing arcade the gamemode where aircraft have a 30s timelimit and CAS isn’t an issue
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He has less than 40 games in the kugel just because he has a high k/d in it doesnt mean hes allowed an opinion on the situation that higher tier radar SPAA are currently in ive got a 3.6 k/d in my I-185 a 5.7 k/d if you include CAS kills having a high k/d isnt special
Also most of his kugel kills arent even against aircraft arcade players should keep to their own issues
The flares can’t even work because Strela uses a photocontrast channel. It have also IR channel but that we use only in night or in bad weather which are not very often. What you can do is to fly at a very low altitude, preferably against the background of some hills, where the photocontrast channel has a problem (so it should have).
Same Type 81(c) with the difference that this one has at its disposal much more deadly missiles with greater agility, range, bigger warhead and an IRCCM channel for night/bad weather and of course, with thermal imaging, which significantly improves situational awareness.
I think the Strela-10M2 could easily go to BR 10.3 with passive detection, and then in the future, when the Strela-10M4 comes with 9M333, it could be on the same BR as the Type 81(c).
Unfortunately, at this moment strela cant be moved up at all.
If it would be moved more, Gaijin has to start developing something between shilka and strela.
Even in current state, there is horrendous cap in SPAA on soviet line what could counter jet’s and helos.
In theory, Strela-1 could be there with 9M31M missiles.
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Good luck seeing a small missile come towards you in bad weather anyway.
9k33 osa will be there at some point
You can always preflare, moreover, the long smoke trail is very good visible.
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Yeah nah most planes at that br don’t have flares to spare for more than 10 seconds before having to rtb.
maybe within 1km.
Thats not “bad conditions”
