No offense but you do realize this thread is mainly for Realistic Battles? It seems like you’re arguing from an Arcade standpoint because you never played any 7.7 RB match.
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And it still has broken front armor that is 70mm to pen, 7.7 heavy with Panzer IV armor levels… I reported this in 2018 so surely any day now.
I remember shooting an R3 with thing and it yellowed a single crew member and then it just killed me from the side because it has useless armor everywhere else.
Forcing the T32E1 to play as a medium when the M47 and M48 are significantly better mediums isn’t a justification for keeping it at 7.7.
The T32 trades side armor for mobility. The IS3 and IS4M are much tougher to kill from the sides. They get their various APHE rounds and the massively OP APHEBC slope modifiers.
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You USA mains are all the same you only play 1 nation a lot and never consider any other nation.
Forcing the T32E1 to play as a medium when the M47 and M48 are significantly better mediums isn’t a justification for keeping it at 7.7.
You can’t read. The T32E1 CAN play like a medium in uptiers while the IS-3, IS-4M and Maus CAN’T play like mediums and are completely useless in uptiers. That doesn’t mean the T32E1 should play like a medium all the time. It can (like the other 7.7s) sometimes play like a heavy in downtiers.
The T32 trades side armor for mobility.
The IS-3 and IS-4M while having less acceleration are actually faster but they get much worse reloads, worse shells if you consider volumetric, less than half the turret traverse, worse gun handling overall, worse velocity on their shells and the biggest downside is the -3° gun depression instead of -10°.
OP APHEBC slope modifiers
These shells get caught on the most random object because of their diameter but russian bias amiright.
The IS3 and IS4M are much tougher to kill from the sides.
Your only valid point.
7.7 heavy with Panzer IV armor levels
The Conqueror has Panzer 4 levels of armor? What?
I remember shooting an R3 with thing and it yellowed a single crew member
That happens to other rounds aswell. It’s not exclusive to APDS or the Conqueror.
The Conqueror has Panzer 4 levels of armor? What?
Did you read half my comment or something? 70mm of frontal armor weakspot.
Actually less armor than a Panzer IV.
That happens to other rounds aswell. It’s not exclusive to APDS or the Conqueror.
Those other rounds are not 120mm APDS with a 20 second reload.
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Actually less armor than a Panzer IV.
You can’t make this up lmao.
Those other rounds are not 120mm APDS with a 20 second reload.
That’s right the other rounds are something like 122mm APCBC with a 27 second reload.
Except it’s 76 mm, and it’s angled at 44°, making it far more effective than a 80 mm plate at 12°.
Still not nearly strong enough to stop tank cannons at that BR, but much stronger than the armor of even the Pz.IV H with additional track armor.
Flakpanzer 341 full penned my conquerers turret face with his AP round yesterday, and exploded and killed all my crew. 49mm of pen against the literal strongest part of the conquerers turret btw.
Also yesterday, sent my 120mm APDS round straight through the chest of a DF105s gunner (+some spall) and didnt even turn him yellow lol. Zero damage whatsoever done with that round through the center front of his tank.
You can aim properly all you like with APDS, its so unreliable that you cant help but laugh at the absurdity, plus the shell shatter mechanic being incredibly unpredictable.
At least the russian 122s immediately delete whatever they penetrate.
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Next time be a bit less obvious with these troll posts.
Where am I trolling?
Move your mouse by 1 pixel.
So True! It’s totally only the Conqueror that suffers! Russian bias 122mm op!
That’s called missing your shot, weakspots don’t cease to exist just because you’re not aiming at them.
Jumbo no longer has a frontal weakspot because I aimed next to it.
It’s not a weakspot if it’s 1 pixel wide.
YES! YES! Finally! Another person that can’t support his claims with evidence starts this nonsense…
So please tell me, is there any difference in ammo detonation, effective armor, shell shatter, etc between AB/RB?
Also, you say this, while you having an obvious botting record, which is against TOS btw…
And? It is still much worse than alloy APDS, or even solidshot/HEAT. The only thing that is worse than carbide APDS is APRC.
And when i point out the trash damage of carbide APDS, i am not talking about shots like this, but shots, where a direct hit makes a module/crew member orange.
Yeah and? It could have been caught up in the barrel, or hit the endge of the mantlet.
And yet, every one of those heavy tanks at the same/similar BR yielded him a better result, than the Conqueror, and he didn’t just leave the match because of suffering, which he did in the Conq video.
You mean it not exploding, or blacking out?
And i agree with that. I was just pointing out that the guys were talking about realism there.
LOL.
Why don’t we test it out ourselves?
It was pixelhuntuing with the Breda, but do you know why?
BECAUSE THE BREDA CAN’T LOLPEN IT UNLIKE EVERY OTHER SHELL AROUND 7.7 WITH OVERPRESSURE CAPABILITIES.
What? So the Conq magically has a shorter reload than 90mm guns? In which universe?
Even if we talk about only the soviet 122mm guns, even if the Conq shoots you first, you are likely going to survive, so you can just get back to cover, and reload :)
You also get your gunner back faster than he reloads.
Is it always in hulldown?
I did, that’s why i know…
False, again.
And neither was i talking about those.
Easier to use for bad players. Give the other tanks and a Jumbo to a good player and he will perform well with all of them.
And the MG port is not an actual weak spot on a Jagdpanther. It is a volumetric hell with a strong cast ball with ~180mm raw thickness.
The second one is yes, the first one is no. A skilled Tiger player can easily deal with a Jumbo.
They have comparable overall mobility.
Funny how the screenshot you put right after it proves my point:
The only HEAT slinger you named was the Ikv 103, you didn’t even hint that you was talking about the higher BR ones.
Okay, i misread that. You only said HEAT slingers should move up. You are right there.
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That was just a trash shot. Aim better next time. There are 2 barn sized parts on both sided of the turret you could have shot, yet you shot into the barrel. Congrats!
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Flakpanzer 341 full penned my conquerers turret face with his AP round yesterday, and exploded and killed all my crew. 49mm of pen against the literal strongest part of the conquerers turret btw.
So? Autocannons ignoring armor is nothing new and I’ve died to it too. That’s doesn’t only happen to the Conqueror it’s a known issue.
Also yesterday, sent my 120mm APDS round straight through the chest of a DF105s gunner (+some spall) and didnt even turn him yellow lol. Zero damage whatsoever done with that round through the center front of his tank.
You can aim properly all you like with APDS, its so unreliable that you cant help but laugh at the absurdity, plus the shell shatter mechanic being incredibly unpredictable.
Random damage happens to any APDS, APCR and even APHE
APCR hits the gun directly and doesn’t even turn it yellow.
It’s across the entire length left to right and easily 10-15cm in height.
