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I would like to suggest the 7,7 cm Flak L/27 auf Flakpanzer A7V (with the armor), which was the first fully tracked SPAA in history and made near the end of WW1 based on the Überlandwagen A7V which was a open flatbed variant of the A7V tank.
In game while slow would give extreme firepower (adequat velocity and penetration, with overpressure, and good fire rate 2x) which could even be used against the low Br slower planes.
In game allready there is the Char 2C and overall an additional WW1 mode would be nice, this Flakpanzer A7V would bring great firepower with relatively good mobility, both against WW1 planes and Tanks including WW2 tanks. Placing it sideways to aim with both guns at 1 target would bring very high fire rate with great firepower, at the cost of speed and survivablility.
The Überlandwagen Geländewagen A7V was build from 1917 to 1918 with 30 produced of which 3 were converted to Flak auf Überlandwagen A7V / Flakpanzer A7V, with rather cheap armarment of 1 with 2x russian captured 7,62 cm Flak L/30 (which where 7,62 cm 1902/30 guns, these were not drilled out because the steel was too brittle, instead germany used the captured ammo as well as produced own HE and Shrapnell grenades).
With the other 2 beeing armed with 7,7 cm Flak L/27 (which are based on 7,7 cm FK 96 n.A.), while the intended later armarment would have been 7,7 cm Flak L/35 (based on the 7,7 cm FK 16 L/35).
Equipped were these vehicles with over all 2x 7,7 cm Flak L/27 1 on each flatbed surrounded by ammo container on the flatbed.
The first protoype was also aparently equipped with some armor for the Driver and commander in the middle, while the other 2 only retained the Holding frame for the armor also reused to hold a canvas.
History of the Überlandwagen Geländewagen A7V.
The situation from 1915 to 1916 was allready becoming dire as the contentors Germany, Britain and france came into a stalemate. To break through the dead mans land filled with barbed wire, shelled though and with Mg Positions, britain and france developed the Tanks, which could withstand the Mg fire and could lead the advance of the infantry.
Germany followed with its own development of 20 A7V tanks as well as later 2 incomplete K-Wagen and more other tank projects. While the A7V itself wasnt the best, the OHl ordered overall 100 chassis to be biild of which these were used to devlop other vehicles upon, including the Flakpanzer A7V.
The Guns:
2x 7,7 cm Flak L/27 (7,7 cm FK 96 n.A. L/27)
77x 234mmR ammo
336 or more ammo (168 rounds or more per gun).
-5° to +70° Elevation, 360° Traverse at 20-25°/sec
20-25 Rpm
(There were more shells, but i only added here the most usefull.)
Ammo:(Click to show)
AP:
K.Gr. 15 m.P. m.L. (Aphe) 7 kg 230g Fp.02 465m/s 52mm/10m penetration
K.Gr.16 (Saphe (No Tracer)) 6,25 kg 700g Amatol 480m/s 30+mm/10m(Historical 20mm/600m)
With Lg.K.Z.m.V., also available as pure HE with E.K.Z. 16/23 fuze (see below under HE)
HE:
K.Gr. 15 (He-TF (No Tracer)) 7,1 kg 380g amatol or 270g Pieric acid 465m/s
(TNTa for the Pieric Acid In Game x1,1, IRL x1,2, for the Amatol x1,26)
K.Gr.16 (He-TF (No Tracer)) 6,25 kg 700g Amatol 480m/s
With E.K.Z. 16/23, also available as SAHPE with the Lg.K.Z.m.V. (see above under AP)
L.F.K.Gr. (He-TF (No Tracer)) 7,18 kg 930g amatol (1,172 kg TnTa) 465m/s
(Pieric Acid ig x1,1=770g, IRL x1,2=840g) other fillers are 700g Pieric acid or 820g amatol with 75g Pieric acid.
Utility:
Kt. (Canister Shot (No Tracer)) 6,65 kg Steel/Leadballs 475m/s
F.Schr.96 (umg.) (Shrapnell-TF (No Tracer)) 7 kg 0,1 kg Blackpowder 465m/s
Works like a Crude WW1 AHEAD round, with a timed fuze mid flight ejecting the Steel/Leadballs, against Infantry and planes.
Filling of x300 10g Lead Balls or 220 Steel Balls (with steel balls 6,85 kg)
Some incendary effect by the pitch around the balls.
Br.Schr.Gr. (Incendary Shrapnell-TF (No Tracer)) 6,8 kg 0,167 kg Blackpowder 470m/s
6 Rows of 5 Segments of Incendary Pellets, Made of Bariumnitrate-Magnesium-Resin of 13g each.
Works like a Crude WW1 AHEAD round, with a timed fuze mid flight ejecting the Incendary Pellets onto the Airtarget.
K.Gr.16 (N) (Smoke (No Tracer)) 6,25 kg 0,4 kg Fp.02 and 0,1 kg Smoke mixture 480m/s
The Vehicle:
Flakpanzer A7V
Dimensions: 7,34 x 3,1 x 3,3 m
Crew; 9-10 (In game rather 3x per gun, and Driver and commander in the middle so 8)
Weight: 30 - 33 ton
Engine: 2x 6 Cylinder Daimler engines 200 Ps
Speed: 15 km/h
Armor: 8mm
Source:
Notes on German Shells 1918 (Second Edition)
Geschossringbuch I
Die 7,7 cm Flak L/27
German Panzers 1914-18 (Steven J Zaloga)
Tankograd World War one Special A7V First of the Panzers