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I would like to suggest this unique combination of 7,5 cm Fk 231 (f) L/36 (aka. 7,5 cm Mle 1897) on the Bren carrier. It would be a fast nimble small vehicle with relative armor and a relatively powerfull gun utilizing German ammo, giving a relatively low Br mobile TD.
Its exact history is unknown however it appears to be a early war field mod similar to what Baukommando Becker build allready early in the french campain, a combination of the french Mle 1897 and a bren carrier.
Generally speaking such field mods were often build, duo to multiple reasons:
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Field Guns are often difficult to move around, especially if only horse drawn and not motorized.
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They often have difficulty keeping up with the infantry and other motorized units as well as generally keeping up with the front line and only really work in defencive positions as well as in previously prepared positions.
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Old and otherwise improvable equipment was often modified to fit a better or new role as such generally often different and new SPGs were created as domestic produced SPGs often simply werent enove.
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The Gun:
7,5 cm Fk 231 (f) L/36 and a Mg 34 in the forward Mg position.
-10° to + 19° elevation 60° traverse unknown ammo amount.
7,5 cm Pak 97/38 L/36 (And different versions)
The 7,5 cm Pak 97/38 L/36 was a combination of the French M1897, with a Rheinmetall Muzzle brake and placed on the 5 cm Pak 38 mounting. It was created out of need as not yet the Pak 40 was available and more guns with higher velocity were needed, as such this gun, equipped with the K.Gr. Pz. (P) which is unlike popular believe not a old Polish Aphe round, but instead the german K.Gr. Rot Pz adapted to the guns, which were used by the French, polish and American units and even up to the 75mm M3 gun. Furthermore the gun took great usage of adapted Heat rounds, beeing able to fight both the T-34 and Kw tanks, tho still with relatively low velocity.
This also includes the 7,5 cm Fk 231 (f), 232 (f) and Fk 97 (p)
Caliber: 75mm
Ammo: 75x350mmR
Fire Rate: 14 rpm
Single Shot, Nordenfeld interrupted Screw
Muzzle velocity: 450 - 570 m/s
Weight: 1190 kg
Mounting: Field Mount, Main Tank gun.
Ammo Types: Apcbc, He, Smoke, Heat
Ap:
K.Gr. Pz (p) (Apcbc) 6,8 kg 80 g Fp.02 und Np.10 (102,4 g TnTa) 570m/s 91mm/10m
Gr.38/97 Hl/A (f) (Heat (No Tracer)) 4,4 kg 399g H.5+Fp.02 (678,3g TnTa) 450 m/s 81mm/10m
Gr.38/97 Hl/B (f) (Heat (No Tracer)) 4,57 kg 513g H.5 (872,1g TnTa) 450 m/s 87mm/10m
Gr.38/97 Hl/C (f) (Heat) 4,8 kg 515g H.10 (875,5g TnTa) 450 m/s 115mm/10m
(Early no tracer, implemented during production.)
He:
Sprgr.34 (He (No Tracer)) 5,74 kg 725g Fp.02 und Np.10 (928g TnTa) 550m/s
Utility:
K.Gr. Rot Nb (Smoke (No Tracer)) 6,2 kg 95g Pent 550m/s
The Vehicle:
Sfl. Bren (e)
Weight Loaded: 3.75 ton
Weight unloaded: 3.19 t
Length: 3.65 m
Width: 2.06 m
Height: 1.57 m
Crew: 3
Engine: 3.9-litre Ford V8 petrol
Eigne Power: 85 hp at 3,500 rpm
Suspension: Horstmann
Fuel capacity: 91 L
Operational range: 250 km
Maximum speed: 48 km/h
Armour: 7–10 mm
Source:
Geschossringbuch I
Munition der 7,5 cm Fk 231 (f)
Panzerbeschusstafel der 7,5 cm Fk 231 (f)
Bren Carrier manual
