7,5 cm Fk 231 (f) L/36 auf Sfl. Bren (e)

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I would like to suggest this unique combination of 7,5 cm Fk 231 (f) L/36 (aka. 7,5 cm Mle 1897) on the Bren carrier. It would be a fast nimble small vehicle with relative armor and a relatively powerfull gun utilizing German ammo, giving a relatively low Br mobile TD.

Its exact history is unknown however it appears to be a early war field mod similar to what Baukommando Becker build allready early in the french campain, a combination of the french Mle 1897 and a bren carrier.

Generally speaking such field mods were often build, duo to multiple reasons:

  1. Field Guns are often difficult to move around, especially if only horse drawn and not motorized.

  2. They often have difficulty keeping up with the infantry and other motorized units as well as generally keeping up with the front line and only really work in defencive positions as well as in previously prepared positions.

  3. Old and otherwise improvable equipment was often modified to fit a better or new role as such generally often different and new SPGs were created as domestic produced SPGs often simply werent enove.


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The Gun:
7,5 cm Fk 231 (f) L/36 and a Mg 34 in the forward Mg position.
-10Β° to + 19Β° elevation 60Β° traverse unknown ammo amount.

Ammo available: (technically also original french ammo, but simply not needed)


Ap:


K. Gr. Pz (p) (Apcbc) 6,8 kg 80 g Fp.02 und Np.10 (102,4 g TnTa) 570m/s 91mm/10m

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Gr. 38 Hl/C (Heat) 4,8 kg 515 g H.10 (875,5g TnTa) 450m/s 115mm/10m

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He:


Sprgr. 34 (He) 5,74 kg 686g Fp.02 und Np.10 (878,08g TnTa) 550m/s

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Utility:


K.Gr. Rot Nb (Smoke) 6,2 kg 95g Pent 550m/s

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The Vehicle:
Sfl. Bren (e)
Weight Loaded: 3.75 ton
Weight unloaded: 3.19 t
Length: 3.65 m
Width: 2.06 m
Height: 1.57 m
Crew: 3
Engine: 3.9-litre Ford V8 petrol
Eigne Power: 85 hp at 3,500 rpm
Suspension: Horstmann
Fuel capacity: 91 L
Operational range: 250 km
Maximum speed: 48 km/h
Armour: 7–10 mm

Source:
Geschossringbuch I
Munition der 7,5 cm Fk 231 (f)

Panzerbeschusstafel der 7,5 cm Fk 231 (f)

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Bren Carrier manual

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I like it! +1

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+1 send it. Would make a great event vehicle.

Very nice to see a Bren Carrier!

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this one looks goofy, i like that
tho, would it really be mobile? It has less than a hundred HP engine with pretty much twice the mass of the original carrier.

Even at 6,8 ton it would have a P/W ratio of 12,5.

And 12,5 is not that much, isnt it?
12,5 is close enough to KV-2 or the Sd KFZ 6/2, and i would not call them β€œmobile” tbh

If course thats a relative statement, however for me who plays mostly the lower stuff and germany, this is relatively mobile as well as a adequat top speed which you will reach over a straight street.

Well to be fair we must admit that 12.5 is not that bad either, fast enough to keep up with Pz 4 F. So i`d love to see that ingame

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OMG, I need it!

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Interesting , +1

What is the wheeled vehicle in front of the Bren(e)?

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M39 Pantserwagen.