.50's deserve a buff

if the SEP and SEPv2 got APDS for their 0.50s that would be so good

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It’s called SLAP, it’s already on GAU-19 of Little Bird

I know, but its so hard to use on the littlebird

Yep. It’s cleared for GAU-19 and M2HB, so everything American (afaik no foreign operators), from after the time of its creation should be able to use it

“Let the US not be at a blatant disadvantage.”

“So you want to add nukes to every round?”

Fully stock F4U-1D I took out to learn new camera controls so that I can die without feeling bad about it.

Literal first match. /ball/ball belt.

Behold, .50 cals do no damage:

Again, full stock - no upgraded guns, no upgraded belt, and my terrible aim.

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“Behold, a different game mode where you don’t get mouse aim, and where I’m also shooting from 0.1-0.15km behind a bomber in the extremely optimal scenario of a near-perpendicular shot to the wing spar on an aircraft with notably high wing loading, where it took nearly a dozen shots to even do that (where a handful of shots did literally nothing to the tail).”

I’ll have to keep an eye out for a fighter for you that didn’t die to fire or pilot or, surprisingly unmentioned so far in this discussion - cables being cut off. The first kill in this lobby was an FW190 whose tail control cables were severed on first gun pass, so I can’t link that one because obviously it’s an “rng” kill. Also not including hitting bombs, otherwise would have another perfect clip from a p-47.

Because my aim sucks and wobbles all over the place as you might notice. If I was used to the plane, I’d maybe keep the nose steady and actually land the shots which brings us to -

This is a point in my favour because of the aforementioned wobbly nose. With mouse aim could’ve just pointed it and landed all shots.

Nobody stops you from flying up close and behind enemy aircraft before opening up.

Refer to earlier videos form IdahoBookworm with the F6F-5 doing just that to german planes and yaks with great success

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I mentioned them before way up somewhere when a Fw-190 had one of its elevators hit and it couldn’t pull up hard enough - where it could’ve also taken fire damage and gotten the cables severed.

I was only talking about the shots that hit the plane.

I said that because the .50 cals are better in sim relative to RB due to cannons not getting to use mouse aim, so the amount of ammo and the ballistic characteristics of the .50 cal actually become significant.

In sim, where no one has mouse aim and player markers don’t exist.

Actually its other way around. .50 cals are more effective in RB due to 3rd person view where one can hit deflection shots which are basically impossible to hit in sim due to cockpit view. In sim one needs to get really close behind.

.50 cals are more effective in RB due to mouse aim, but 20mms are massively more effective in RB than .50 cals. In RB 20mms can get the couple of shots off they need to kill a plane much easier than the .50 cal can get its dozen(s) of hits it needs. The only thing .50 cals have over cannons currently is the number of bullets that might get a pilot snipe.

And better ballistics as you said above.

They don’t matter in a gamemode with mouse aim, though.

In other words, “no not like that, just like in none of the other examples Ive been shown, they do no damage in this one specific scenario that only I know about but refuse to provide any evidence to back up my claim”

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When you’re firing at 4500rpm, a “dozen shots” is literally nothing.

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0.16 seconds to fire 12 rounds.

Nope, remember there’s 6 guns. it’s 0.0027s. Each gun only fires twice.

No, you’ve done the same thing I originally did with the calculation, and it sounded wrong to me so I checked my maths.

4500rpm is 75rps. 12/75=0.16s your number is 0.0027 minutes to fire 12 rounds. (Which if you multiply by 60 gets you to 0.162)


Yeah, .50s are terrible.

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50 cals are better than most ww2 cannons. Much better endurance, easier to aim. It’s better to damage something than nothing at all even if overall damage is lower.

Also full API-T M20 belt ensures less ricochet