Btw do you have a link to the bug report on adding TNT equivalence values to .50 cal incendiary rounds?
It’s totally not suspicious that they were both denied on the same day with the same copy-paste message - especially the one that quite literally has TNTeq values (\s).
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Good thing that every single plane with .50cals has more guns than any other 20mm-armed plane at the same BR then.
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Still, even with the extra guns 20mms are doing massive damage in comparison to .50 cals. The fire rate of the .50 cal isn’t an order of magnitude or two the fire rate of the 20mms.
Total RoF is ~4x faster, with greater ammo capacity and ballistics. There is no excuse.
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.50 cals are putting out less mass and do less damage - the fire rate is not making up for that. Neither is the extra ammo. If anything, the ammo is just extra weight that can’t be removed. Unless you’re spraying with no care in the world you’ll never use more than two-thirds of your ammo.
I went through the RAF document and tried to take the row-reduced echelon forms of the various explosives and the figure of merit values, but whatever relationship exists between them isn’t linear.
other 4.3s with decent firepower that aren’t shitbricks:
J6K to 5.0 when? It’s very weighed down by its 1200rds of 20mm.
No, I’d like more ammo actually.
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Useful mass*
1200 rounds of 20mm is like 1.2*10^(20) .50 cal rounds.
Because getting lucky with what happens in a match (where people are, who hits their shots, who misses, etc.) is surely decided by ammo count?
That just means it’s even more weight and even worse.
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I am considering whether to tell gaijin to put some fuze-delay on 50cal Inc round, just like how the MK108 Inc works, such that the round can reach the fuel tank. However, by doing so, the round may lose its capability to damage cover. Or perhaps they can make the I round just like the ball round, but with more hitPowerMult value.
Here is a 2-min long video of Ho-103s totally doing damage and not just harmlessly hitting 2 planes over and over until one crashes from the damage.
I’m a little sick and have a bad headache so this wasn’t my proudest showing. Unfortunately I also found a Yak2 KABB sealclubber which tend to be the most annoying to fight - crazy how that plane is a lower BR than the Bf 110 C-7 or a Ki-45 with somewhat comparable guns.
The keen-eyed among you might notice that whenever I hit someone, they didn’t just spontaneously combust or instantly lose a wing. Crazy how that works!
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Dude, right now I just went a headon with a Wyvern in a P51D30, I barely hot hit by 1 bullet of the Wyvern’s 20mm, my flap exploded and my whole plane turned yellow. I turned around, the Wyvern tried to turn as well, I turned inside him and literally hit him with hundreds of 12.7mm rounds, he was approximately 500m from me, I didn’t even noticed if I got a critical, and then an ally of mine stole my kill.
That’s just hilarious, dozens of hits with 12.7mm and almost no damage. Gets hit once by a 20mm - whole plane explodes.
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I tried to remove the weapon upgrade and fought some battles. It seems to work better against japanese planes, especially those with wing tanks. However it is not ideal against German planes, such as bf-109. The rounds just be too spread-out to concentrate on the wing spar, harder to blow a wing off.
from the f4u4 each M2 12.7mm puts out 0.54kg/s
now if you look at the p38 if you subtract the 2.16kg/s from the 12.7s you find that one AN/M2 20mm puts out 1.47kg/s
so almost 3 times the mass per gun
doing similar if less precise math for each of the other planes shown all the 20mms put out 2-3 times as much mass as an M2 12.7mm
yeah without the modification if you get unlucky you can fire on target to the point your guns start to jam and they wont die
I cant believe, after 400+ messages, despite gigantic piles of literal video evidence proving the exact opposite of your claim, you, the person who still has only flown SEVEN battles in non US planes, and only 41 battles in cannon armed Prop aircraft, for a total of 18 kills, You are STILL trying to argue that this is the case.
You have provided zero evidence of any form to support your claim. Your entire argument hinges on "M2 brownings do less damage because I feel they do, and that I don’t count fires, control surface damage, or anything except a wing snap as “real damage”.
Thats it. that is the extent of your argument, With next to no experience in anything that you are trying to argue against, with people who have literal thousands of games in aircraft of all types.
You even try to suggest that .50s are putting less Mass out lmfao, the game GIVES you the one second burst mass of every plane in the game. It takes you two seconds to look it up.
Useful mass? So what? we make our own argument stronger by taking away the pathetic 7.7s from those Cannon armed aircraft?
1200 Type 99 Model 2 cannon rounds are apparently equivalent to 582 million M2 browning .50 cal rounds. You heard it here first
It only is if you are bad at the game. Which sounds like that might be the real answer to all of your problems
I’m bored of trying to argue seriously with you anymore. At least Dovah had a genuine argument.
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Hyperbole. 1.2 = first digits of 1200 in scientific notation, 20 = bore of 20mm cannons.
Except having exceptional games is based on what happens in the match that aren’t in your control. If most enemies are knocked out before you even get to altitude or to the battle, you won’t do as well. If more people on your team hit their shots, you won’t do as well. It’s simple.