They still deal far too much damage. a single 20mm HE ripping off a wing/tail of a large bomber is dumb. Even German unguided rockets often blew large hole in B-17s without any severe damage.
I can´t say that my Mineshells (Minengeshoss), the most powerfull 20mm ever build, can do that.
I never ripped off the wing or tail of a bomber with a single 20mm Minengescchoss. I really like to hunt bombers. So I do it pretty often. What I see is that way too many times, you get 1 shoted by a bomber, even if u pass him with 700 km/h annd he is slow…
The next thing… They are way to nible. They dogfight fiighters for fun… That never happened in War…
I’ve seen it happen plenty of times, even with hispanos. The difference in damage models between massive bombers and small fighters in Warthunder is miniscule.
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I would like to see more rigid bombers. But without 3rd person in sim, and nerfed guners. You have to do some work to kill a bomber, or, position yourself good enough to kill it with 1 burst of 20mm. The FW 190 was able to do that. But a bomber with the most kills on the battlefiield never existed…
I just was in an battle. And our team got 1 tapped by a Mustag MK 1… That shouldn´t be possible. I left the match. Coz it has nothing to do with good enjoyeble fights, where even the guy that got shot down had his fun…
So no… .50 deserve a hughe nerf, not a buff…
50s do not need any sort of nerf. That is silly talk. They’re barely adequate as is and a laughable joke compared to what they SHOULD be.
So why do you think, they had to put so many of them, including a hughe amount of ammo, on these planes?
It´s an engeneers nightmare to put guns on a plane. They are heavy and they reduce the planes performance.
The needed to put so many guns on these planes coz the litterally were bad. Simple, right?
The 109 has 3 guns and there were many 109 aces.
So yes. the .50 need to be nerfed.
I’m sorry but you sound ridiculous.
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I sound rediculous because I want good and hard fiights between 2 opponents? And not fights like: “Oh… enemy… ok… lets point my nose for 0.01 seconds barley towards him and boom… I won… God… I´m the greatest pilot ever lived!!!”?
Yes, how rediculous.
.50 are just OP atm.
That is not a very good argument since you forget that most German aces used gun pods on their 109s.
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It may not split the plane in half but the damage it can couse from one hit can render the planes unusable some times multi hit can down a fighter, and actually according to US military tests it appears that 20 to 25 direct hit from 20mm mg151 where enough to down a heavy bomber, and it took 3 to 5 hits from 30mm to down a bomber.
Effects of 30mm rounds on planes:
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No you don’t German 30mm and 20mm Mineshells where self distruct the fuse was a time fuse and not impact the shells pen almost to 2/3 in side and then explodes inside the plane.
I suggest you watch these two vids
Bc if anything the only thing that really underperform is the 20mm and 30mm cannons
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Mustang mk1 has 20mm, not .50cals.
So no… it’s 20mm that deserve a hughe nerf, not .50s
Flaps destroyed and the bent structure would cause a lot of drag on one side.
Here’s what appears to be a 30mm hit against a P-47:
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The Pilot died in a crash-landing from what I’ve read. The hydraulics were destroyed, yaming the landing gear.
Not necessarely lethal damage but enough to take out the plane for some time.
In WT, you can not take two 20mm Mineshell hits without a wing breaking.
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no
The plane in the picture is a spitfire not a P47
P47 is under “spoiler”. It even says P47 in the picture.
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Don’t even need to know how to read, the big cowling and slotted flaps are a dead giveaway. The P-47 itself was probably THE toughest single engine fighter of WW2, and even it didn’t fare too well.
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My fault
yes it shows the effectiveness of sustained fire from multiple cannons on aircraft. There are videos of bombers collapsing and Fw-190s having ammo explosions from sustained fire from .50 rounds. They’re not underperforming.
Honestly, if 20mms get insta-collapsing action with their 20mms, then american .50’s need to get back their 2016 flamethrower status.