5.0 destroyers such as HMS Diamond have been unplayable since the BR uptiering from 4.7 to 5.0.
Almost every single map is a 12km spawn hellhole like New Zealand Cape. Low velocity destroyer guns just have no chance, both in accuracy and penetrating potential.
I spawn in and it’s cruisers everywhere, seems like the matchmaking is even worse since the BR changes.
yeah that was an awful change
The 6.0 breaking point is equally unbearable. You have light cruisers (some of them without AP) facing off against battleships. Naval is still hilariously compressed, not helped by the fact that you cant target cargo vessels
What is the problem?
at 4.7 they were already facing a raft of cruisers up to 5.7 - so that hasn’t changed.
Moffets and the Soviet 5.3’s are still 1 step up from the, so that hasn’t changed…
The NZ Cape map spawn points haven’t changed much - if at all then it isn’t really noticeable…
But not so many of them as the 5.7’s used to - they used to face everything up to 6.7so saw ewverythign except the very top BR of 7.0 - the 7.0’s are all not 7.3-7.7 so 6.0 doesn’t see them any more.
And of course the “old” 6.0 cruisers saw all the BB’s - again they now see fewer than they used to even from 6.3.
Try harder - they have low visibility so aren’t always as easy to lock as warships, but it can certainly be done.
I find the decompression quite nice. Stock grinding USS Gearing has been pleasant.
I think a few maps where you’ve got more than 12 km between heavy fleet spawn points and no light fleet spawns, now that the heavy fleets have been pushed farther apart, have become pretty rough for destroyers. Franz Josef Land is probably the worst example. Destroyers can’t effectively engage past 10 km with gunnery, they just get chewed up by the cruisers on those maps now. Some light fleet spawn points closer in might be needed on a couple of the maps where heavy fleet distances have been stretched out.
Yeah that is true - and of course the open water maps - although I’m not sure if DD’s get those.
But of course DD’s engaging with higher BR CL’s and CA’s with gunfire was never a good idea anyway!!
Makes it even more important to have a range of vessels in your lineup so you can pick a better one for hte game - ie fast boats of some type.
Use anything RUSSIAN, that will do the trick! 🤣🤣No idea why that Bravy is in the game, bet a Russian asked for it…along with all their other extremely biased ships. Surface to surface/air weaponry, what next?
The Bravy has its moments but the missile is still marginal against cruisers.
The best strat on a lot of maps now at midtiers for DDs and CLs is a turn and skirt the edge of that 12 km range for effective cruiser fire into some terrain, and then use that to close the gap. Which actually isn’t terrible, leads to battles more resembling the historical WW2 ones with two fleets initially moving on gradually converging tracks, not everybody rushing to close like before. In this sense, putting DDs at 12km+ too has probably helped the game feel a little more naval-like.
The other thing that’s pretty obvious to me this event is there are enough people now that have bulk-disliked all the conquest (big circle) maps now that, if you’re one of them like me, you never see one (and conversely if you don’t batch dislike them you could presumably see quite a few). The only one I don’t dislike is South Kvarken and that was the only Conquest I have seen, ever, despite playing those BRs this whole event. Which was nice. But it could lead to a very different game experience depending which choice you make.
Would be nice to have a cruiser battle. Unfortunately should a BR of 6.0 be your ship of choice, forget it. Invariability the ‘circle of death’ maps appear and guess what, any cruiser spawning is a shell magnet. Everybody using a capital ship sees an easy kill on the horizon…boom! I get thumb cramp pressing the repair, fire extinguisher and breach repair options repeatedly…before getting blown to bits. Have the Devs any intelligence whatsoever…I think not…a very LOW IQ perhaps. What does everybody reading this post think?
A fix should be as easy as just adding more spawns (light fleet, heavy fleet) or locking the new versions to higher BRs. Honestly, we just need more spawns anyway, even at battleship BRs. Not to mention frigates spawning with destroyers.