4,7 cm Pak 35/36 L/35,6 (ö) "Böhler" auf Sfl. Bren (e)

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I would like to suggest the 4,7 cm Pak 35/36 L/35,6 (ö) “Böhler” mounted on the Bren Carrier.
To be more precise there appear to be 2-3 generations. Overall it may be another vehicle from Beckers Bautrupp. (Thats the person that build a lot of the interesting tank conversion). Generation 1 appears to be a Bren carrier with the normal infantry mount and normal round shield with cutouts for the wheels (but without wheels), generation 2 has a new 14,5 mm rectangular small shield and generation 3 a big 14,5 mm shield that protects the whole crew. However it may also be just 2 generations and generation 2 (because of so few pictures) is just genetation 3 while beeing build and is just incomplete. I suggest the final big shield of 14,5 mm.

Beyond that its (likely) build by Beckers Bautrupp after or during the France campain nothing more is pretty much known and at least 6 vehicles were build.

The Bren carrier also known as Selbstfahrlafette Bren (e) was captured in greater numbers during the france campain as they were left behind from the retreating british units.

The Gun, the 4,7 cm Pak 35/36 L/35,6 (ö) “Becker” is a classic early multi purpose infantry gun design, which was even liked by the italian and licensed produced under 47mm 47/32 gun. While the original austrian gun from the company Becker is noted as L/35,6 or L/39 and is usually seen with a pepper box style muzzle break and will have (because of the choice of ammo) a slightly greater performance than the allready found in game italian copy. It went into German service after the addition of the Austrian empire into the German Reich as well as was captured from Netherland storage (Kanon van 4.7) and later russian stock (M35B).
Overall it was for its time a good and modern design with relatively good AT performance as well as He performance against infantry.

Sadly information (even tho its such a relatively widely used gun) is a bit scars, but not impossible.

In game it would offer a similar playstyle to the Panzerjäger I Ausf. B with less armor, a bit bigger, weaker gun but faster and eaqually sneaky. It would offer a good sidegread and show the need of the german army in WW2 to use and modify captured equipment to fill their own gaps.

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The Gun:
4,7 cm Pak 35/36 L/35,6 (ö)
And on 3 pictures visible an Mg 34 in the original Bren Carrier Mg position).
2,8 Sec Reload speed (ballancing) -15° to +56° Elevation, 62° Traverse. 14,5 mm Gunshield
Ammo:
It it unique in the german army, as it will have pently of different rounds to use made by the german army. It has its original Aphe round, the Pzgr. 36(t) with adapted driving band of the original austrian ammo (even visible on the Blueprint), He grenades and even Pzgr. 40. (This gun appears to be loaded stronger than the italian copy, this is also a reason why it uses a muzzle brake and the italian copy not.)

Click on the names to show the pictures of them:
(The archive of the He grenades is sadly incomplete, so i used other source for them)

Pzgr. 35(ö) umg. Aphe 1,51 kg 15g TnT 630-660m/s 54-58mm/10m

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Pzgr. 36(t) Apc (no Tracer) 1,65 kg 15g TnT 630-660m/s 64-69mm/10m

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Pzgr. 36(t) L'Spur (with tracer) Identical to the normal one, but equipped with Tracer unit Nr. 8

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Pzgr. 40 Apcr 0,86 kg 21-58 mm 335g Core 880m/s 88mm/10m

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Sprgr. 36(t) He (no Tracer) 1,50 kg 180 g Fp.02 400m/s

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Sprgr. 36(t) L'Spur (with tracer) again identical to normal one but with Tracer unit Nr. 8

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Sprgr. M35 He 2,37-2,45 kg 150g Fp.02 und Np.10 (192g TnTe) 350m/s

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The Vehicle:
Weight Loaded: 3.75 ton
Weight unloaded: 3.19 t
Length: 3.65 m
Width: 2.06 m
Height: 1.57 m
Crew: 4 (Driver, Gunner, Loader, Mg Gunner (next to driver)
Engine: 3.9-litre Ford V8 petrol
Eigne Power: 85 hp at 3,500 rpm
Suspension: Horstmann
Fuel capacity: 91 L
Operational range: 250 km
Maximum speed: 48 km/h
Armour: 7–10 mm, 14,5 mm Gunshield.

Source:
Geschossringbuch I
Ringbuch der Sprengladungen I
Munition der 4,7 cm Pak(t)
Universal Carriers Volume 1: Dragon – Armoured MG – Cavalry – Scout – AOP – Bren – Lloyd – Universal
The Encyclopedia of Weapons of World War II: The Comprehensive Guide to Over 1,500 Weapons Systems, Including Tanks, Small Arms, Warplanes, Artillery, Ships and Submarines

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Love these makeshift design. Cooler than any incel leopard or t-90

This is what War Thunder needs more of. These are the tanks which make the game interesting. And I agree with the above commenter. This is far cooler than another Leopard 2 or T-72/T-80/T-90. +1