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I would like to suggest the 4,7 cm Pak 181(f) auf Sfl. Laffy W15 TCC, which is a french captured Laffy W15 TCC armed with the 4,7 cm SA 37. Overall the 47-50 mm class of guns is quite liked and effective in low Tier/BR, which will include this french captured Gun with German ammo giving it a unique touch.
It will offer a mobile Tank destoryer based on a Truck to shoot and quickly change position or at least go back to cover.
History:
At the begin of the war the idea in the French Army to mount the new taken into service 47mm SA 37 with a Pivot mount on the back of the W15T Truck. This was to quickly engange enemy targets, change positions and reduce the time to set up. While the crew sat relatively high and vurnarable, they instead got some armor to protect against rifle caliber ammo, which however also reduced the traverse to only the back with limited side field.
The first protoype was ready in March 1940 and presented to the military, with great priority, as allready in May 1940 the german troops broke through the french lines in Sedan and the prirority of the Self propelled guns was extremly high to have mounted as many modern and 47mm AT guns on Trucks as possible to at least extend the time untill defeat.
The main series of in summary of 70 vehicles however was slightly different to the prototype, as less armor was employed to reduce weight and increase the traverse, as such only the Gunshield, roof, windshield and engine from the front was protected.
The captured 4,7 cm SA 37 guns recived in german hands the name 4,7 cm Pak 181(f) and recived also german ammo, it was a relatively good gun aquivalent to the allready in german service 4,7 cm Pak36(t), which it also shared its ammo with (Shots not casings!).
The Gun:
4,7 cm Pak 181(f)
Unknown Traverse, around 100° Left and right. -13° to + 16° Elevation
Along the standart french ammo it also recived German made Czech ammo.
(Technically also “all in service 47mm He ammo”, so the Sprgr.181(f), Sprgr. M35 and Sprgr.(t), but the Sprgr.181(f) is enove, its the best of the 3 and they are pretty similar anyway.)
AP:
Pzgr. 178(f) (APCBC) 1,726 kg Solid 855m/s 105mm/10m
Pzgr. 36(t) (APC) (No tracer) 1,65kg 15g TnT 865m/s 102mm/10m
(Didnt have the correct picture, here simply to see that it existed with and without tracer.)
Pzgr. 36(t) L’Spur (APC) (with tracer) 1,65kg 15g TnT 865m/s 102mm/10m
Pzgr. 40 (APCR) 0,825kg 21x75mm 335g Core 1100m/s 119mm/10m
He:
Sprgr.181(f) (HE) 1,6kg 185g Fp.02 and Np.10 865m/s
The Vehicle:
Laffy W15T
Weight: 6,2t
Crew: 4-5
Dimensions:
L / W / H /4500 / 1850 / 2450
Engine: 4 Cylinder 52 hp
Speed: 60 km/h
Source:
Geschossringbuch I
Ringbuch der Sprengladungen I
H.Dv.481/177 Munition der 4,7 cm Pak 181(f)
Panzerbeschusstafel der 4,7 cm Pak 181(f)
Beute-Kraftfahrzeuge und -Panzer der deutschen Wehrmacht (Walter J Spielberger)
Tous les Laffly Militaires 1914–1940. (Francois Vauvillier)