Maybe stop talking gibberish and get something like a source or manual here instead of making up shitty excuses?
(sorry for unnacessary rudeness)
If it could use it it might as well would have a second feed, instead of a mix of rounds in belt, hell if it could fire it they would just include it in a mix
Hmm, what do we have here…
It seems you are correct
Between either higher CBP or extreme velocity causing excessive barrel wear are the only reason I could see it wouldn’t use it.
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Feeding is, as you can see usually with only one exception APDS belts have one non APDS round in them for 30MM soviet.
“The gun was equipped with an electric trigger and an electric ignition device from a 24 V DC network, servicing both barrels, as well as a sensor for the weapon’s readiness to fire.”
Not to mention Gsh using Gsh type of 30MM.
Never said that, in fact said the opposite. LMAO
Good try at projecting.
Your the one implying it can providing zero sources whatsoever and ignoring actual manual
Pressure comes from the patent describing how 2A72 itself isnt all that fine from firing 3UBR8 and it doesnt even mention 2A38, however link to patent is long gone.
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"The firing control is remote, with direct current electric power (27 V). The cartridge powder is ignited by an electric cap.
The GSh-2–30 cannon fires 30 mm cartridges with OFZ-30-GSh high-explosive incendiary fragmentation, OFZT-30-GSh tracer, BR-30-GSh armor-piercing explosive and ME multi-element (contains 28 bullets in a package and an expelling charge) projectiles (projectile weight is 400 g). It is installed on the Mi-24P gun support helicopter and its export versions. The GSh-30 with 1,500 mm long barrels is installed on the Su-25."
Somethign on your end, opens just fine on mine. I am not gonna search any more sources as I have yet to see a single one from you, the very same man the burden of proof lays upon.
We love our 1982 documents.
You can cry or smth, you fail to even read the thread to find out 1991 source
Literally only person to think 2A38 fires 3UBR8, even worse is your claim GSh-30-2 can fire 3UBR8/11, very two claims you have yet to give any source for
I am not gonna discuss this any further until any of the delusional points can be backed up by sources.
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Feeding issues wouldn’t surprise me because of the different length of the projectile.
Tunguska can’t see those bombs.
Pantsir usually can’t see those bombs due to their drop height.
And neither can know they’re dropped on in random battles almost all the time due to no laser warning.
Thats kind of the reason why for BMP-2/3, BTR-80A all the APDS belts arent pure APDS, but they have one shell of proper size just to make sure belt feeds properly.
So who’s to say it can’t properly feed a 3UBR11.
Dont remember implying about feed problems with 3UBR11, it’s correct length unlike 3UBR8. It’s a reason why APDSFS on BMP-2M is pure APDSFS.
You could simply loft it to give it a different trajectory or throw multiple at Tunguska, very viable. I know mavericks are bad but with Tunguska I just stay low chuck a couple mavericks and go down again, normally works quite well, since I don’t have to pay for missiles :D
Having been tested by combat, cartridges with electric ignition of the capsule, safe to handle, have proven themselves well. With jams and “wedges” that occurred with many thousands of shots, it was necessary to remove stuck cartridges from the chambers of the “double-barreled guns” by knocking them out with crowbars, or even chopping them into pieces right in the cannon — a liberty unacceptable with conventional ammunition. The gun itself was highly appreciated for its reliability, and many considered it even more convenient to operate than the lighter GSH-23.
Your coment says u either dont know how to use them or didnt play them at all, u do see them in both, and pantsir can see them even if u drop them almost on top of it
i personally throw one in obvious trajectory and second one lofting more so he will focus on first one and radar will not show him second one
@SwagBelly coming in to say that knowing how to play CAS means you don’t know how to play the game.
One day he’ll stop claiming to be the best around.
Yeah, that’s what I did but sometimes they try to use machine guns and ends up getting killed lol.
I agree with your assesment of the advantages, but I think your conclusions is wrong.
I think the Tunguska is properly BR’d.
I think the other systems are overly high BR’d.
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No it’s not? 2S6’s missile literally smokes any roland type missile, and it’s not like a bit better, it’s like two heads above them
just like any other AA system at the BR, except Tunguska is superior to all of them in everything
It fires a marginally better missile and does literally everything else worse, radar system is worse, tracking system is worse, the gun for close range engagements is worse
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