Only that you literally spawn well inside its range
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I’ve quite literally proven somebody wrong ON-SPOT with this, taking almost 4 matches against the Pantsir and strongarming it every single match.
Congratulations? Who asked?
Then why speak?
Ah, you must be one of the dozens of idiots that takes the air spawn and flies in a straight line expected to get somewhere.
Does evasive action elude you?
Yeah, not sure why I can’t read. Good catch on that.
Drinking does something nice, yknow? ;)
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@TPS_Hydra
Laser guided bomb range: 16km, it has been 16km since the maximum speed changes where it was 22km prior to those changes.
Maximum effective range against a jet using Tunguska: ~9.2km.
There is no situation where you drop LGBs within the range of Tunguska.
Skill issue coping won’t change the fact that LGB range is 16km and has always been AT LEAST 16km in War Thunder.
He didn’t catch anything. Q-5L’s LGBs have at least a 16km range. I know having used it and tested maximum range.
I could demonstrate for him in his tank if he wanted.
meanwhile there is the otomatic which is 11.3 rate for no reason and is not as versatile as a tunkuska
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Its APFSDS should be removed so it can stop being 11.x.
I don’t understand how you can say that a barracks with tracks makes sense to put it above 11 because it has sabots…
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I stated the wrong BR for the Q-5L, he definitely caught something.
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Italy needs a 10.7 anti-aircraft gun and I really don’t think it will break the meta for just 12 anti-tank ammo
unless you can give me a serious and reasonable reason to say otherwise
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And the Roland is better than some of the 10.3/10.0 options
Have you actually flown the Jaguar and to actually believe 16km of engagement range is achievable for the Jaguar is ridiculous, in nearly all situations you’ll be flying at around 800km/h to 1100 km/h. The LGBs alongside rockets, AIM-9Gs and chaff dispensers create a lot of drag for an already slow aircraft.
Q-5L’s LGBs have at least a 16km range
You should totally rephrase that lmao, at LEAST 16km of range is ludicrous (only achievable in incredibly favourable environments and positioning) for a subpar barely supersonic aircraft, the Q-5L ain’t no wunderwaffe.
He didn’t catch anything
The difference between 9.7 and 10.3 is quite notable therefor I just corrected a honest mistake, most of ArcticFoxxos argument was actually pretty good and I didn’t have any issue with it.
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didnt Gaijin added Pantsir S1 because 2S6 was nerfed and had bad missiles? now they buffed it again after adding Pantsir back then?
china has a couple with guns AFAIK, but it’s because of doctrine that russian/chinese SPAAs are better than western SPAAS
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Pretty sure it lacks it due to not being able to use it.
It’s practically a GSh-30-2 on a tank, it’s 2 guns, which have two barrels. If I duel weilded double barrel shotguns, you wouldn’t say I had 4 guns, you’d say I’d have 2
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It, can use it, but whatever…
3UBR8 is a 30x165mm cartridge, which is what the 2A38 cannon on the Tunguska fires.
It may not be rated for it, but it can fire it.
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Jag has been in my British 10.3 lineup since Sea Vixen’s release to present, and Q-5L has been in my 10.0 now 10.3 lineup for a year.
Also never used chaff dispensers as there’s no reason to. Internal countermeasures are on the aircraft.
And no, it has nothing to do with favorable conditions.
16km is 8500 meters altitude going mach 0.95.
You can go higher, go slightly closer to the speed of sound, for a slightly longer range.
You can also toss bomb.
Your post is the only one to have “Q-5L” and “wunderwaffe” in the same sentence, so unless you’re making that argument there’s no reason to bring that up.
As I said, you can get into a SPAA/tank and I can prove it to you.
I’ve done these bomb drops hundreds of times across over a dozen aircraft.
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16km is 8500 meters altitude going mach 0.95
Quite literally favourable conditions, most jet powered aircraft struggle to exceed 10km in altitude. The climb rate with the Jaguar is also pretty slow so it will take a bit to gain altitude, you also first must turn hard left or right the minute you spawn in to avoid climbing right about into enemy SPAA infested spawn.
As I said, you can get into a SPAA/tank and I can prove it to you
Pretty sure I didn’t say it was impossible but not something the average player or in fact nearly 90% of players would do since nobody in reality could be asked to wait 10 decades and a half to climb in a Jaguar out of all aircraft (would be a different story if it was a well powered aircraft like the Lightning which obviously can’t bring LGBs in-game).
I’ve done these bomb drops hundreds of times across over a dozen aircraft
You sometimes paint yourself as some glorified role model people should look up to, climbing then clicking a button isn’t something skilful nor competitive. The blame can also be put on the SPAA for not positioning in a better place if you do end up killing them (which is the case for majority of the time yet again).
Anyways, the Tunguska is far better than the Roland, it has thermals, a good cannon and multiple missiles which the Roland completely lacks therefor a BR increase by 1 step won’t be something game ending.
Russia already has excellent SPAAs like the Strela and them being anymore competitive and especially SPAA wise will create a imbalance between NATO and Eastern teams. I should also mention that the Q-5L analysis in general isn’t that good since China is almost always on the side of Russia.
Also never used chaff dispensers as there’s no reason to
May seem crazy to imagine but if you were to bring chaff dispensers then you’ll generally speaking have more countermeasures to mess around with! Yes I know it’s insane, it also allows you to bring 60 flares instead of having to split them 40/20 or 50/10 for those insane people out there.
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If 2A38 could wouldnt that mean that all these years Gepard like SPAA’s had full APDS belts in their disposal for years until they were nerfed to realistical level all while 2S6 never even received any or maybe the problem is in fact in 2A38 not being able to field 3UBR8?
Same caliber doesnt imply it can use it.
In fact 2A38 was made using Gsh 30 2, air cannon that couldnt use APDS. Never rang the bell how Mi-24P’s with GSh-30-2K never get APDS but Ka-29 with 2A42 get them at same BR with better flightmodel?
Additionally 3UBR8 had to have it’s own entrace to the cannon which only would accept such belt.
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