2S38 to 11.0

Machinery of War Discussion Ground Vehicle
974

Doing some calculations, the gun is mounted approx. 1.75m off the ground, at full depression a shot lands 16m infront of the T-90A, that equates a 6.23° of depression.

That’s weird, is the chassis slightly declined IRL as well?

You’re overcomplicating things, the point was to show that it’s overall attributes are almost all terrible relative to many of the vehicles it faces, I also elaborated on it’s problems below the chart so there’s no need to get so fixated on that chart.

That’s the average I get using top-tier APFSDS, yes.

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975

Wt players can do anything the moment they’re proven wrong and they dont want that.

976

Its the average War Thunder Forum experience

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977

Yes, and no. CR2 is the best tank on tracks, but all tracked tanks are mid.
The rightful, objective, non-biased, balanced tier list of all tanks in a game of top tier GRB:

  1. Centauro I 120
  2. Centauro RGO
  3. Radkampfwagen 90
  4. CT-CV 105
  5. M1128/M1128 Wolfpack
  6. ZLT11
  7. Type 16
  8. Other wheeled tanks(centauro 105 R/VRCC, WMA301, type 16P/FPS, LAV-AD etc)
  9. All cowards who hide behind composite armor and tracks
978

ZTL-11 is the best

979

Against enemies without 50cal, on a map that is flatter than sinai and has the engagement longer than tunisia large, sure.

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980

You’re both wrong, type 93 is the best wheeled vehicle.

981

The ZTL-11 can’t be penned by 50cal…? You’re thinking of the PTL-02.

982

Facts, I must ensure I look around the entire game, and I admit defeat.

983

Sideways it can, at least thats what my friends(ZLT11 is his most played wheeler) told me, so I kinda forget about grinding it.

984

Type 93: misses a missile on a plane flying in a straight line 2km out.

985

It really can’t. Maybe at point blank, at 0 degrees, in a specific area. But it’s practically impossible.

986

T-90S is less nimble with worse gun laying, so I prefer the Challenger Mk3 over it.
T-90S I find easier at medium to long range though.

T-90S is a chronic 10.3 at best. Worse round than DM33/L26. Only thing you have is armor in the rare downtier.

987

Sadly i don’t think so, the Centauro MGS is much better in almost everything it comes to mind, but i think you’re ironic.

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988

I am being somewhat ironic. I do love the ZTL-11 the most, even though my stats in it are quite bad.

989

It isn’t the chassis, it’s the turret and the gun placement.

Every since the 1989 iteration of the T-72B, as well as the original T-64A featuring the first 2A26, the breech is tilted slightly downwards.
As far as I know, and I’m not too sure of absolute specifics of decimals, this is almost an exact 2dg tilt.

I don’t feel I am, I was just trying to gauge when it was made to see what changes have been implemented since then. Both the T-90A and M1A1 have seen major gear revisions, affecting acceleration forwards, and hilariously for the T-90A, backwards as well.

Read onwards past what you quoted

990

Yes, sadly like the ZBD04A its missing some features, after those are implemented it will surely get better.

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991

You forgot the Fox which should go to No.1

992

3BM42 is perfectly solid, the dozer helps obscure the LFP and absorbs HEATFS, and it gets extra ERA where the dazzlers are on the T-90A. Overall a very strong vehicle at 10.3.

993

On opposite day I think