Aiming that low is typically the easiest way to guarantee a one hit you’d have to be stupid to aim at the turret in an MBT itd only kill one crew and youd just get track and barreled right after by the 40mm like i said against IFVs the strids are completely immune to damage frontally unlike the IFV the strids are shooting
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I didn’t delete it. I have no shame in calling out a manipulative poster. Meet my block list.
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The chieftain mk10 is great thats just a bad matchup you should be playing hull down and abusing your 500-600mm thick turret not driving around exposing the 100mm hull
Eh guess its a difference of luck, i normally kill their breach with a turret shot so i dont have a problem killing them. Like the 2s38 i dont have a problem killing them, sure you get the occasional fuel tank eating your shell but its not often enough for me to care. Now them hiding their hull can be annoying when my he doesnt kill them but sometimes itll knock their gun out so i can push.
2S38 should go to 9.3 because there aren’t enough maps to cater to its playstyle.
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“Meet my block list” i think i just visibly cringed please go back to reddit
Keep the private quarrel out of this thread if you can. It’s off topic man. If y’all have problems like this, then you should take it up with mods, flag, or discuss it somewhere else or in private, we’re here to discuss the 2S38, nothing more.
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Why don’t you tell me? You seem quite capable of trying to justify why the 2S38 should stay at 10.0, why can’t you justify me that?
As far as I’m concerned MBTs should be able to tank shots and light tanks really shouldn’t? Apparently a good number of people in the 2S38 think they have stalinium armour (they don’t) and run head on into a bunch of enemies? idk i’m trying to justify your “statistics” that show how it performs much worse than a Leo 2 premium… and explain to you that your statistics mean absolutely nothing if the people who form those statistics prove hopelessly incompetent.
My guy, does it look like Gaijin cares? One rule for one, one for another. various Typhoon concepts and designs have been denied yet something like the Yak-141 made it to the game. Are you surprised?
In my experience that is precisely what Chieftain players don’t do. Doesn’t do them any good though.
Yep, two of mine got flagged and I’ve changed them already. Plus I’m ignoring Nano and Sneed. They’ve proven themselves incapable of good faith arguments. The whataboutisms are astonishingly decisive when we discuss any sort of change that might affect certain nations’ “performance”, even though this game is supposedly “just a game”.
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I dont care, i dont have proof and im here to make an argument on why i believe the 2s38 should be placed at a higher br to see how it performs. All ive seen so far are people showing how much they panic when they see a tank and aim too low or that players cant understand that the 2s38 is easy to kill if the fuel tank doesnt eat your shell but thats poor coding on gaijins end not just a 2s38 thing. Regardless i think remote control turrets can and are overlooked. Example the french ifv, was the same br as the cv9030 but only the cv9030 stayed at 9.3 where it still performs poorly, poor pen, poor spall, and fire rate. To peak and shoot is to immediately get crew knocked. The vilkas and vbc dont have this problem and are fast enough to escape. Remote control turrets are very powerful and if used correctly are very potent. Thing is i belive having aphe and apfsds with 200mm pen is too strong for the majority of 9.0-9.3 tanks
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This is the difference between someone weaponizing passive aggressive manipulation, sarcasm, and therapy-speak, versus actual experience.
When dozens of players state that a particular vehicle overperforms regularly for a good portion of the playerbase, but only a couple loud ones declare those arguing are “just raging”, it’s usually the smaller minority that’s the problematic ones.
The 2S38’s performance is acceptable for an increase to its BR.
And IF it suffered (if the players win rates and kill counts dropped dramatically as a result), it could then go back down and that smaller portion could say they told us so.
So why don’t they?
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That’s not trauma dumping. That’s an explanation of the current situation.
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Really though the 2S38 is fine where it is.
I’m always happy to see them as they are easy free kills.
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this is the most desperate low quality argument i have read ever on this forum
Amphib? sometimes its nice but most of the time its not even a usable aspect
Durable? If you are horrible at the game…so no its not durable. 3 sardines lined up in a tin can, is the most easy shot ever.
Low Spalling? if thin armor affects that than this goes for all IFV’s with thin armor
Dozer? most useless thing in the game.
APHE? gets stuck in crew, as I have experienced it, but its nice to have
APFSDS? shit post pen damage
…etc
You desperately threw excrement at the wall hoping its sticks. Truth is that the other IFV’s mentioned by others do a lot of things better or as good as the 2S38 ,and at the end of the day the capabilities are balanced.
Maybe the problem is more so about counterpart SPAA/IFV’s that were nerfed and not the 2S38. Where is the Begleit apfsds, smoke…etc ? Where is the real armor of the Puma, its realistic gun performance and shell weight ? Commander sight for the Swedish IFV that still does not have it in game since its addition despite it literally has the equipment ?
Stop trying to nerf shit that’s not broken and instead get stuff fixed that’s broken.
And if you are looking for an overpowered,undertiered IFV, why ain’t you all crying about the BMP-2M ??? For the love of God, that’s way stronger than the 2S38 with its 4 atgm’s, darts and most things u listed. One can launch all 4 atgm’s at the same time and all will track… At 10.0
Buffing them would require Gaijin accepting the suggestions and implementing them, THEN their BR stats could be argued.
The 2S38 doesn’t need further buffs to make it viable at 11.0.
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Gaijin denied all those changes you want to see, the UTAS sight denied, the begal got its hp nerfed while looking at the document that stated the 600 hp wasnt sufficient and they would use the 720hp engine, also it literally mentions the LWS and apfsds lol. Its pick and choose with gaijin.
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Another soft buff we have all known and demanded be removed was the BMP-2M 4 missiles all tracking at once.
I have yet to see a code implemented to do so.
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His list convinced me.
It all seemed pretty moderate but the fact that it gets a dozer is just one step too far
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that dozer makes whole teams just poof when its deployed. crazy tool
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Wait it gets a dozer? I did not know that.