Now i’ll give you a pass on China here since i don’t really know much about them in this matter but Russia is not exactly known as a country that follows the rules of the Olympics when it comes certain “treats”
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Also, the USA has won the most olympic medals and multiple fellow european countries has more medals than Russia if you really wanna go into this
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I don’t mean these kind of Olympics
Science Olympiads (Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry and Computation) have a different set of rules and target audience (high schoolers). Usually, post-soviet countries (Russia, China, Vietnam, Romania and others) tend to have higher scores than their western counterparts because of the particular approach soviets had in regards to teaching mathematics/physics.
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They’re not used as SPAA, Alvis. I just had 3 players do this in a 11.0 match with me downtiered against them as Japan.
Guess who won? You got it, the 2S38s.
Push them to 11.0 and have them deal with 11.7. I don’t care about their SPAA capabilities when they rip 9.0 tanks like that.
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So the 2S38/Strf 9040C players were superior in skill.
Sorry, but there’s no reason to push Begleit to 10.0, Strf 9040C to 10.7, 2S38 to 11.0, and HSTVL to 12.0.
2S38 isn’t anywhere as good as you think it is.
If it was my KDR in it would be vastly higher than my Begleit and HSTVL KDRs, and it’s not.
Dang I had a skill issue in Begleit when I first got it years ago.
Also, NO.
If they were undertiered, then so are the entire U.S. 6.7/6.3 line-up.
You know what the difference is? Rate of fire and penetrating power. Same as a 2S38.
F*ck skill, they have the fastest of the turret rotation speeds combined with a stupidly high penetrating power.
The same gun on the PT-76 went from 7.0 to literally 8.3, and it can still operate at 11.7.
The 2S38 started at 10.0, so push it up.
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Their penetration is slightly better than Strf 9040C’s penetration.
2S38 started at 9.3. It’s a 10.3 tank at 10.0. It’s barely off its BR.
I am not here to argue this with you, Alvis.
Push the damn thing up in BR. Period. Put it at 11.0 with the Type 90. Don’t like playing with the big boys, don’t like not being able to cheat your way through noobs, then don’t play it at all. Suck it the hell up.
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No. It’s not 11.0 good at all.
I get that you feel the need to defend 2S38, it’s not as good as you claim.
Go play the Begleit and you’ll see for yourself.
Already played Begleit.
Never had to play 2S38 to know it’s too stupid good for its current BR.
Push it up to 11.0.
So you support Begleit to 10.0, got it.
Either way your posts are still wrong.
I don’t care if you say I’m wrong, because I’ve already played enough high tier matches to know your argument is full of crap.
You just don’t want it getting put at top tier because then a lot of players who rely on it aren’t going to be lolpenning whoever they want at 9.3-9.7 matches.
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2S38 cannot lolpen. It has to aim for weakspots, identical to Strf 9040C.
And it has the rate of fire to hit weakspots at a steady rate, rather than the rapid-output of the 9040C.
I see 9040Cs regularly rip apart M1A2s, T780BVMs, and the like.
You’re being a dumb brick wall at this point.
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A rate of fire seen elsewhere.
I have zero memory of ever dying to a 2S38 cause they’re the easiest things to kill.
So no, they’re no where near as good as you think.
I never died to R3 T-20s either due to having ears.
Ah, I see, so this is YOUR personal anecdotes as a “high skill player, me good, you bad, I flex my ears at you”, type of deal.
Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest equipment, first off. So that’s classist as fuck on your part.
Secondly, because you have zero memory of ever dying to one, does not then negate everyone else’s experience. You’re just the outlier. So quit stonewalling.
Push the 2S38 to 11.0.
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Basic skill increasing tactics such as headphones and keeping ears open is not anecdotal.
If you can’t afford $10 headphones while I, a man in poverty, own $30 headphones, that’s something else.
Also weird of you to call those in poverty “classist”.
2S38 is not good enough for 11.0.
Sound of engines alone doesn’t determine you’re going to hear them coming when they’re on large maps, even. Then it’s up to scanning, because engine noise doesn’t reverberate. And 2S38s have the rapid reaction to pop multiple targets in sequence within seconds.
So again, your argument doesn’t hold up.
Edit: And don’t bother trying the reverse psych bullcrap of “I’m in poverty, too” to make the argument. If you’ve never died to them, you’re the outlier, not the general example.
How many nukes have 2S38 players gotten in matches, anyone know or can tally that?