As i said before people compare it with MBT’s when that’s not a fair comparison, compare it with similar vehicles and you Will notice a difference here
I did, hence why I support 2S38 for 10.3.
It’s not an HSTVL by far.
It’s close to its biggest kin the Strf 9040C.
If Begleit had APFSDS I’d say that’s a better 2S38 due to the TOW missiles despite it only being gen 1 thermals.
ignoring the obv again with irst right ? :)))
Which is 9.3, below its 10.X BR.
You should stop forgetting that 2S38 is 10.0 and not 9.3, already well above is SPAA capabilities in BR.
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One has 45 winrate the other has 65 so not even close
Win rate is a symptom of team skill, not power of a vehicle.
HSTVL is more powerful than both for its BR yet mine has a lower win-rate.
Win-rate is for team skill not vehicle power.
There’s no proof of your statement.
Win rate is rather a product of vehicle lineup and their actual performance
Vehicle lineup choosing is part of player skill.
Choosing MBTs over light tanks is the correct maneuver if you care about winning.
Map positioning, identifying targets before they identify you, etc.
Even if there’s a minor imbalance, or in the case of Ariete and Challenger 2 major imbalance, skilled players only ever operate in onion layers 1 - 3: Don’t be seen, shot at, hit; which Ariete does as well as 2A7V, Ariete of course will fail onion layer 4: Don’t be penned.
People don’t choose tech tree based on their skill. People of similar skill have different success with different tech trees.
One is better than other
Tech trees are all essentially identical due to the BR system.
Keep in mind the Begleitpanzer is at 9.3 with a faster firing 57mm , a TOW launcher, better gun depression, and better mobility.
Of course, the 2S38 has a much much stronger round, actually usable thermals, and the IRST.
But I don’t think those advantages warrant almost a 2 BR increase. I would say at the highest the 2S38 could go to 10.7 so the T-90A has a lineup, but even that is stretching it.
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If they were there wouldn’t be 1.5 times winrate discrepancy
Win rate is an indicator of team skill. Stop bringing up irrelevant information.
False speculation
No, it’s basic knowledge of statistics.
Vehicle power indicators are KDR compared to like-vehicles on singular profiles.
HSTVL, 2S38, Begleit, and Strf 9040C for example.
It is a mix of both. It encompasses the average skill of the team, and enemies, how good the lineup is, and partly individual skill.
K/B (kills per battle) is the best way to measure how good a vehicle is in my opinion.
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KDR is best cause per battle is more team dependent than KDR is.
Without directly analyzing the vehicle, you are looking at profiles of people that play everything.
People play the same in every tech tree. I have no idea where you got that myth about people automatically being stupid for grinding USSR. It’s not realustic. Chinese and russians win mathematical, programming and physics Olympics not the Americans or European.
It’s just when you vehicles with slow turret movement, speed, reload and depression and put them on unrealistic virtual reality maps with slopes that pretty much make them unable to even aim at the enemy ofc they lose.
Terrain in wt is awful its unnatural. The Soviets wouldn’t produce tanks that are defeated by terrain itself before even firing a shot
But then individually i think t72 t80 aren’t supposed to be equivalent to leopard 2 abrams. Just compare price and weight. In game they are propped up artificially in BR
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No, there is definitely a skill difference between trees. High tier US winrates are bad because it is mostly new players or premiums. The Panthers and other German tanks were/are undertiered because people can’t play them well because they are new and not as good at the game. I’ve seen lots of people complain about how bad 10.0 Russian teams are because of the amount of premiums.