2S38 should return to 10.3

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With the closure of the above topic, I feel like discussing it here.

From what we can see, there are no evidences that the 2S38 performs exceptionally well

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Only the BMP-2M performs worse.

Similar tanks like the Begleitpanzer 57 are ignored and not uptiered like the 2S38. This BR change will further nerf the already lackcluster Russian 10.3 loadout.

On what basis was the 2S38 nerf based on? We can see, from open source data, it is not player performance of the vehicle itself.

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Cannot wait for this thread to be locked

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Add it to the list!!!

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I just hope the usual posters will come with memes before this thread is nuked.

just liking this because I love the sheer amount of chaos this dude makes with 1 post.

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too well known for bad takes i just had to expand the list itself

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This is outright laughable.
The 2S38 is capable of frontally annihilating almost any MBT. To begin with, this is a vehicle that arguably should not even be in the game, as it was only ever a prototype. Despite that, in War Thunder it has become a constant issue for anyone who encounters it.

The 2S38 is based on the BMP-3 chassis, featuring very light aluminum armor and an unmanned turret. On paper, it is a fragile vehicle, primarily designed as an air-defense platform, not as a main battle tank killer. In practice, however, its lack of armor is completely offset by its disproportionate firepower.

Its 57 mm autocannon, combined with a high rate of fire and APFSDS ammunition, allows it to reliably penetrate critical weak spots on modern MBTs. The combination of penetration, firing speed, and excellent fire control systems enables the 2S38 to destroy internal modules, turret rings, and crew members within seconds, even from frontal aspects.

It remains severely overperforming at its current BR, and moving it to 10.7 would not make it a bad vehicle. The real issue is encountering the 2S38 at 9.3, which is simply absurd. Despite its lack of armor, it is a textbook glass cannon, with offensive capabilities that do not match its battle rating.

I regularly play 12.7 ground battles, and the 2S38 is fully capable of frontally destroying a Leopard, a Chieftain, an M1A2 Abrams, and virtually any top-tier MBT. From a technical and realism standpoint, a vehicle of this type being able to engage modern MBTs head-on with such consistency has no justification whatsoever and seriously undermines the game’s balance.

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And how exactly does it differ from hundreds of other prototypes in game to not be a valid addition?

Have you actually played soviet 10.3?

I’d argue they have the strongest 10.3 lineup in-game at the moment

Tiger clearly posts these just to enjoy the meme images after

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its got to be a kink at this point

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Only if it was that impactful on the balance.

i mean that literally wont change a thing. you’ll see almost the same match ups, and a decrease from .7 to .3 will not help you if you can’t make it work currently lol

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