0.53 K/D last month player trying to prove something to me lol.
show us a video of yourself flying a jh7 or netz or f16a with ir missiles against lobbies full of fox 3 hms slingers
You come across as someone who has scarcely played either the Su-27 or French F-16A. This is a load of nonsense in which you confidently assert ridiculous arguments to be true, and true arguments to be false. No amount of logic could convince you.
Edit: Just checked, and you indeed only have 57 battles with Su-27 and 69 in the france F-16A. Experience can be made up for by research, but it’s pretty clear you aren’t intent on doing so.
As soon as you buy me one of them and pay me, I can do it. For free, I can only make fun of you, unfortunately.
Playing attacker/F/B… look things i play as fighter. And i’m not statpadder.
But in agame i played like fighter (because i’m grinding the event and i’m not giving a damn really
When i’m grinding events i want faster matches than 18mins. I don’t have much time.
But keep judging a book by its cover…
You are that ^capable^.
what are you even doing here then?
How quickly you went from being a super pro, who says ‘Look, he’s still exploding from the fakours,’ (even though I never said that) to becoming an AI bomber. I wouldn’t be surprised if you don’t even get out of multipatch height :D
So, are you going to pay or not?
I probably have more battles in the J-11 than the su-27. Across all flankers and F-16s I have plenty of experience
If you are comparing modern ARHs to F-14 ARHs (with that radar) , then i can’t think of anything else as a reason.
Where did i say i’m super pro? I always say i’m not into stats…
And the picture is when i want to , i can do many kills, but when i’m grinding 2 events (naval and air) i don’t have time for 18 min games , thus i play F/Bs and strikers. It just is a lot faster…
Anyway…
I didn’t intent to really talk with you.
And if your best shot was how competitive i am, do you want more pictures?
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Are you trying to say that the Fakour isn’t the best BVR missile currently in the game?
The easiest frags in the game. And pay attention to the time… 2 minutes.
Ah, I see. You do have a bit more experience in J-11; also, you have a ton of experience with other F-16s. Almost 2000 battles combined, which is almost 10x the time you played Su-27/J-11 combined, and 25x the time spent on F-16A (France) specifically.
However, you barely have experience with French F-16A, which is notably different to all the other F-16s in that it relies on AIM-9Ms as the primary weapon (F-16C, F-16A MLU has AIM-120s, latter lacks AIM-9M). Also all the ones you have played have like <=90 countermeasures, while the French F-16A can take 240 with dispenser racks, while still retaining a decent 4 AIM-9Ms. This detail is probably the most important in determining its power.
It’s best to think of the French F-16A as an “IR missile terrorist”, comparable to the JAS-39 in playstyle. Get close to the battle using terrain + multipathing, spam flares on periodic timing (becoming practically invincible to IR missiles), use side-aspect missile launches.
That is quite different than how the other F-16s are usually played, with some factors becoming much more important (energy retention, IRCCM effectiveness, reaction times) and most decreasing in influence (presence of long-range missiles, instantaneous turnrate, radar). I think this is a good explanation of why you feel the French F-16A is comprehensively worse than the Su-27/J-11 even though they are both best-in-class and balanced overall.
Lmao
Bro… Incredible mental gymnastics. Any decent player can get a very good grasp of how a plane handles the matchmaker after spading it.
First, you only have 79 battles in the French F-16A, a tiny bit more than I, and you barelly have a positive KDR with it, while I have over 2.0 with a jet that I consider trash.
Secondly, you only have around 400 battles in F-16s combined, and most of my F-16C matches were with IRCCM only loadout before fox3 introduction.
And then you have around 200 battles in the j-11 (your only flanker). I have around 300 in the 13.0 flankers alone and around 500 in all flankers combined.
So, according to your own argument logic, you have no bearing in the argument.
Very good strategy you have there to get 1.0 KDR
It is also very disingenuous of you to say those 2 jets are comparable in effectiveness when with the french F-16A, you have around 1.0 KDR while with the J-11 you have around 1.5 KDR. That clearly indicates that even you do considerably better with the J-11.
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“Temper temper” lol but good points. And I think someone tested merges with flankers and f16 and found that flankers can beat them. Wait that was u right?
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Me and @kizvy. We reached the conclusion that the su-27 reliably beats the F-16 block10 by forcing the 2C fight, nevermind the block15.
And when I say forcing the 2C fight I meant that the F-16 doesn’t have any other option with any counter 2C strategy because their performance in 1C are roughly equivalent, in a horizontal or downward 1C the flanker has an advantage because of high AoA at slow speeds, while in a vertical scisors for example, the F-16 block10 still has a slight advantage. But the flanker doesn’t need to take such a fight, easier thing is to just to start the 2C right off the first turn and adjust it if the F-16 tries to offset the rate fight.
The F-16 also has virtually no chance to achieve an overshoot since the flanker has the ability to pull AoA at command. So when losing the ratefight, the F-16 is cooked.
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Yeah the AoA toggle is insane. But I use psychological warfare to bait flankers to cobra or pull insane AoA and then fly away to gain more speed. While they struggle to not hit the ground, I come in and brrrt. That’s the only way I found to kill flankers, especially after their recent FM buff.
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That sounds more like impatient and low-skilled flanker pilots, which is the majority. If you outskill them and manage to avoid R-73s up your engine, you still have decent chances to run away or even win after looping around in a vertical. (though without a team the su-27 will catch you again)
But the thing is that with R-27ER (or any SARH missile) the F-16A will have to start a merge by giving his flank which is a very bad start, that or you start with your enemy diving on top of you. Either way your enemy has a very easy job to lag pursuit you.
I would even feel confident in a mig29 vs the f-16a provided I have SARHs to force them into a disadvantageous position
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Most battles are won from the start, and in most cases you’re right that SARH at the beginning can lead to an f16 being in a bad spot.
I had some late game 1v1s with the old flanker vs F-16/gripen/F-2 and none survived the high altitude R-27ER spam after 2-3 missiles. I only have to climb to 5000m and keep them dancing around the ground but eventually they get bad RNG with splash damage
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yea thats the whole problem you are a sitting duck until youre in 4km range if you survive multiple sarh and arh launched your way, atleast with the mirage2000s4 i have a fighting chance because of the 530ds