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12.3 f16s are straight hell from this br range, br compression ruins a decent plane.
Tbf when not in a full uptier that plane can fight but any F16s in 13.3/13.7 is pure hell. It’s stupid to think at any moment that the F16 ADF is equal to the prems Su30
the even worser bit is the fact that migs with like r77s or r73s (i forgot which is a fox3) are somehow seeing the f16a block5-15 which only have heatseekers, and what puts more salt on the wound is that ALL of the export models that are under block 15 only get about 45 countermeasures
And now we have AMRAAM F-16s at 13.0 so they can dunk on 12.0 planes with both superior missiles AND flight performance lol
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the flight performance isn’t amazing. To strong for 13.0 but to weak for flankers and proper f16 not to mention the 4 radar missiles wen most 13.3 have 6 or more
should i mention aim9L vs r73 and aim9m
Can’t find the direct quote but it was something along the lines of “we know it should go up in BR, but MONEEEEY”
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lots and lots of money
They fear these would suffer too much if they could see current 14.7.
Funny bit is, current 14.7 were all 14.3 till march of this year, meaning even the later added MKK could see them for three months or so.
Did you try, paying more?
And it meets F4J Phantoms…
which it shouldn’t
but if we play that game it would meet su30sm f15ge and even the early euro fighter at 14.3 (if it was 13.3)
Gaijin needs to decompress to 16.0 at least ugh
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I’m sorry what?
I’ve had to run away from one in the MiG-29KR, which is almost as good as the F-2A in a dogfight. The guy was probably stock-grinding it at the time.
The F-16XL has enough flight performance to comfortably deal with everything, including F-2A’s and typhoons. Just lacks the armament.
Flight performance isn’t certainly lacking. It doesn’t do BVR as good as the F-16 ADF which is faster and can climb faster, but WVR it can handle itself even against HMD jets.
If I could choose, I would allow it to carry aim-120 in the wing pylons like the other 13.3 F-16’s, and place it there.
If it had more CM’s or HMD it would be straight to 13.7.
The FM seems exaggerated, I expected it to have a bit lower sustained turn rates against the F-16C, or even the block10. But it is doing F-2A levels of sustained turn rate + the insane instantaneous turn rate with little energy bleed.
does not sound like a flex given the mig29 fm in this game
being better than a mig29 seams to be low bar in this game in general
You didn’t fly the 9.41 variant did you? It’s a fantastic dogfighter, but very draggy at speed. Like comparing the mitsubishi F-2 to the normal F-16
not yet working at the mig35
Do it if you really want to play at 14.3, but I think the 13.7 one is more fun.
The countermeasure number is already limited at 13.7, and at 14.3 it will feel very annoying, also you don’t get a high gimbal radar, but only 120º horizontal gimbal (altrough AESA). The MiG-29KR has 170º, which allows you to slave those R-77 at more extreme angles. Also the lack of top speed will be much more felt at top tier than 13.7
Yea you got a point but on the other side you have only 6 radar missiles and no maw(which I hope will be nice given anything with maw that I have is 11.7 or below )