12.0-13.0 requires comprehensive decompression and separation

True.

However

This entirely hinges on you knowing how to use said plane (or fight agaist it for that matter).

With Vigens average stats being so high, its clear that people who can make premium vigen work outnumber those who cant.

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No idea why J11 and su27 go to 13.3, but f-15c/f16c remain on 13.7. J-8F should go to 13.3, the missile quality should be consider.

Already is on the DEV server, not sure it deserves a higher BR than the USA one though, It’s missiles are a little better and it’s slightly lighter, is there any other differences (other than the obvious one) that I don’t know about that would make it better?
Edit: seems it was either reverted or my game was bugged and showing it’s AAB rating in ARB

Couldn’t the F16C go down to 13.3? It already has abysmal stats on statshark and a max of 6 missiles doesn’t help it.

Currently ie. not taking into account the proposed decompression, F-16C is fine, FM hard carries it.

Moreso current 13.7 is peak matchmaker. Now that the SL lootboxes are done I cant wait to get the F-15C MSIP, its gonna be fun.

The F16C does not pull, which is crucial in the Fox3 jousting meta atp., you need to be able to get the nose on target at high speeds, the F16 just doesn’t do that.

The 13.7 F-16C block 50 in the US TT.

Does not pull.

Aight lol.

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I assume he means at above mach 1

Which I would still disagree with.

At high speeds above mach 1 they definitely compresses worse then other airframes like the Rafale and Eurofighter

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Nah, just 13.0.
Decompressing 13.0 would impact 12.0, but 12.0 doesn’t have much compression except F-4JUK.

Su-30MKK should be the same BR as Mirage 20005F at minimum.

And the twin-engine’d jets above Su-30MKK should be moved up by an equal amount.

Devs won’t change the Su30MK2/MKK BR so don’t expect any changes to 12.0-13.0. They’re only decompressing by moving top tier air up

F-15C is probably an oversight on my part. I always considered it to be balanced whereas Su-27SM never dipped below 1.0K/D even despite the Big3main syndrom.

It did get better however with the influx of premium fodder in the form of Hornets and Flankers.

F-16C however could be a step below F-15C but it can’t go down to 13.3 in the current meta and especially during decompression. Look up the ADF’s: they have better stats despite having less CM’s, weaker engine and no HMD.

Once they’ve collect a fair share of their profit, they might.

My bet is after Independence Day sales when they introduce the premium F-15 at 13.7.

Last chance October.

You need to consider player skill. Frankly, I don’t see how a J-11 with R-27ERs can compete with an F-15C carrying eight AIM-120s—as long as the F-15C pilot isn’t an idiot. By the way, what BR are you planning for the JAS39C? 13.3? Only four shitty AIM-120s at 13.7 is way too weak, don’t you think?"

You’re not qualified because you greatly underperform in the plane and use your own skill issue as the reason for why the plane is supposedly balanced.

we just need like a .7 gap between a lot of planes

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I dont want to be an ass but of course F-16C FM comes off worse when compared to bettter planes that sit at higher BR.

Moreso it was clear from the comment chain that the F-16C in question was the 13.7 one, not pobit.

JAS39C has superb flight performance, HMD, tons of countermeasures and Very good radar that has detailed NCTR compare to other 13.3’s.

As long as F-16C Block-40 Barak IIC and Block-50 stays at 13.7 JAS39C has no business bein at 13.3.

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While I understand your point, doesn’t mean that it invalidates it’s opinion otherwise I’d have to invalidate yours looking at your stats