- Yes
- No
I would like to suggest the 10,5 cm LeFH 18/40/2 (Sfl.) für Geschützwagen III/IV, which is the 3rd contendor and build by Alkett, it was the most simple of the 3, however also didnt really confirm to the requirements, resulting in it also not beeing build beyond the Prototypes, as the same hull was more needed in form of the Hummel 15 cm SPG, which offerend more potential than the 10,5 cm LeFH 18.
The idea behind the vehicles, where to have an mobile self propelled 10,5 cm LeFH, which could be fired from the vehicle or dismounted as a static or towed gun. For this reason it also had an hydraulic lifting framework that swung upright into position and could be used to lift up the turret and place it behind the hull, so that the hull itself could also be used as an ammo carrier. After a long development and worsening war situation with the ever growing need of materials and normal Pz IVs, it was decided to abandon the Waffenträger IVb as well as its other contendors and settle instead for the more cheaper Wespe.
With this vehicle not even fulfilling the requirements.
In game it would offer a solid fireing platform with a allready familiar vehicle and gun, beeing the 10,5 cm LeFH 18, as allready found on the StuH 42G in form of the StuH 42 L/28.
With this vehicle following more of a playstile like the Marder III Ausf.H than the other 2.
And this one still exists too.
Pictures:(Click to show)
The Gun:
10,5 cm LeFH 18/40/2 L/28 (Sf.)
-5° to + 42° Elevation, m.Pilz (with Mushroom) 360° Traverse (Not an error, i have seen a picture, aparently the whole superstructure can rotate.)
Ammo storage: 85+1 rounds
Ammo:(Click to show)
Ap:
Pzgr. (Aphe) 14 kg 238g (304,64g aquivalent) filler 480 m/s 72mm/10m
Pzgr. Rot (Apcbc) 15,56 kg 250g (357,5g) 461 m/s 82mm/10m
Gr.39 Rot Hl/B (Heat) 12,35 kg 2,53 kg filler aquivalent 495 m/s 105mm/all
(More Pictures in Hl/C)
Gr.39 Rot Hl/C (Heat) 12,35 kg 2,53 kg filler aquivalent 495 m/s 115mm/all
10,5 / 7,5 cm Pzgr.39 TS (Apcbc-DS) 6,4 kg 17g H.10 765 m/s 138mm/10m
He:
F.H.Gr. (He (TF)) 14,81 kg 1,75 kg filler Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,24 kg TnTa) 470 m/s
F.H.Gr. F (He (TF)) 14,81 kg 2,21-2,335 kg filler Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,83-2,99 kg TnTa) 540 m/s
10,5 / 8,8 cm Sprgr.42 Ts (He-DS) 9,3 kg 850-935g Fp.02 and Np.10 (1,088-1,197 kg) 620 m/s
(Didnt find the drawings, as such here is the real thing)
Utility:
F.H.Gr. Nb. (Smoke) 14 kg 50g smokestuff dont expect much 480 m/s
Kt. (Canitster Shot) 15 kg 465 m/s
H.Schr.16 (Shrapnell-TF) 15,6 kg 0,2 kg Blackpowder 461m/s
450 Steelballs of 13,8mm
Some incendary effect by the pitch around the balls.
The Vehicle:
Geschützwagen III/IV
L / W / H: 7195 mm / 3000 mm / 2875 mm
Weight: 25t
Crew: 5 (commander, driver, gunner, 2x loaders)
Engine: Maybach HL 120TRM 12-cylinder water cooled gasoline/petrol engine, 300 Ps
Fuel capacity 360 liters
Top road speed: 45 km/h
Operational range (road) 225 km
Main Armament: 10,5 cm LeFH 18/40/2 L/28 (Sf.) howitzer with 87 rounds
Hull Armor Front 30 mm
Sides and Rear 16 mm – 20 mm
Turret Armor Front 30 mm
Sides and Rear 15 mm
Source:
W127
(“Sf.” → Selbstfahrlafette → SPG. and gives for charges: 6 and Fernladung → F.H.Gr. F/Fern)
Geschossringbuch II
Panzer IV & Its Variants
Spezial-Panzerfahrzeuge des deutschen Heeres